<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Come on, Walter! <br><br>Men's Rights Activists: A lot of dudes who straight up stalk and harass women and threaten violence and are super horrible. <br>Ada Initiative: A small non profit run by two people who once pissed off Violet Blue. How can you compare these things? <br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">If you could see Double Union you might change your mind. It's lovely! We have a lot of fun. I think that we help promote other Bay Area hackerspaces well. Our membership is happy. Does your hackerspace have 150 women members? Mine does!<br><br><br><br><br> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- Liz<br><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Walter van Holst <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:walter@revspace.nl" target="_blank">walter@revspace.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 2014-09-23 19:56, Al Billings wrote:<br>
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Has the Ada Initiative addressed its previous behavior towards sex<br>
positive speakers like Violet Blue? Until they do, I know lots of<br>
people that aren’t going to give them any money…<br>
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Precisely. The Ada Initiative has been sufficiently toxic that it is roughly as useful to the conversation as Mens' Rights Activists are.<br>
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Walter<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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