<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>I'm not sure what is Mitch's answer going to be concerning securing stuff but till now when we run projects at CCC events and OHM in Europe we did close to 0 concerning securing and there was equipment worth of taking if you really wanted - except one book we were fine. The reason why we left things open was that we were rellying on the community and it's spirit in general and really did not wanted to start that "get a locker" compentition, that sucs. Some precautions are reasonable I think but within the reason.<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size:
13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I hope solution will be found and funds recovered.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Sincerely,<br></span></div><div> </div><div>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck</div><div><br><br></div><div>biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</div><div><br><br></div><div>"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi<br></div> <div
class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:25 AM, Bacon Zombie <baconzombie@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv4062866915"><div><div dir="ltr">Typo.</div>
<div dir="ltr">It's really shitty to hear you, Toool and others have getting stuff nicked.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Don't take this question the wrong way, just wondering since I've seem people who should know better leave expensive tech laying around unwatched and unsecured at cons in the past.</div>
<div dir="ltr">How did you secure the kits?</div>
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<div class="yiv4062866915yqt4583563147" id="yiv4062866915yqt40672"><div class="yiv4062866915gmail_quote">On 25 Jul 2014 23:14, "Bacon Zombie" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:baconzombie@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:baconzombie@gmail.com">baconzombie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv4062866915gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">What why did you secure the kits? </div>
<div class="yiv4062866915gmail_quote">On 25 Jul 2014 23:08, "Mitch Altman" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:maltman23@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:maltman23@hotmail.com">maltman23@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv4062866915gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div dir="ltr">Hey James, and others, <br clear="none"><br clear="none">If anyone feels like chipping in, that would be way awesome -- and helpful! <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Probably the easiest ways to chip in:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">PayPal: <br clear="none"> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:acct@cornfieldelectronics.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:acct@cornfieldelectronics.com">acct@cornfieldelectronics.com</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">or <br clear="none"><br clear="none">check to:<br clear="none"> Cornfield Electronics <br clear="none"> 572 Hill St<br clear="none"> San Francisco, CA 94114<br clear="none"><br clear="none">or <br clear="none"><br clear="none">BTC:<br clear="none">1LQAasyUSpU7rWqp2KjsGuz7DiQc6EcNDX<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Since these are kits that were stolen, even though the theft is helping a thief, I'm assuming that there will be real people who will eventually make them -- so at least some good will come from this. <br clear="none">
<br clear="none">Best, <br clear="none">Mitch. <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><hr>From: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:myrcurial@thinkhaus.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:myrcurial@thinkhaus.org">myrcurial@thinkhaus.org</a><br clear="none">Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:43:39 -0400<br clear="none">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org">discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br clear="none">
Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] kits stolen at HOPE-X<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>Naomi:</div><div><br clear="none"></div>If you met me at HOPEX, you met a doppleganger.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>This happens from time to time. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Hey Mitch:</div><div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>What’s the best way to put some coin in your pocket - if the hackerspaces community chipped in a little bit each, this would be a solved problem.</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><div><div>On Jul 25, 2014, at 15:39, Naomi Most <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none"><blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div>++Mutual Aid<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div>ps. Nice meeting you at HOPE X, James.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:36 AM, James Arlen <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:myrcurial@thinkhaus.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:myrcurial@thinkhaus.org">myrcurial@thinkhaus.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;">Remember folks, this isn’t a first for Mitch and Jimmie. <div><br clear="none"></div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://makezine.com/2010/04/22/help-mitch-cleveland-ohio-makers-un/">http://makezine.com/2010/04/22/help-mitch-cleveland-ohio-makers-un/</a></div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I think it’s time for Toool to help Mitch out with some physical security. </div><div><div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><div><div>On Jul 25, 2014, at 14:28, matt <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com">matt@nycresistor.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br clear="none"><blockquote><div dir="ltr">staggeringly sucky behavior out of some folks... sad to see it on this coast.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">=(<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Danyelle Davis <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ddavis@codetemptress.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ddavis@codetemptress.net">ddavis@codetemptress.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">:( this saddens me greatly. </div>
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