<div dir="ltr"><div>Noisebridge is one particular space with one particular culture, not a reflection of Hacker/Maker/US/EU or anything else. That at least is my perception after having seen many different spaces and organizational models: They don't categorize neatly by continent or nomenclature.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It's also become clear (especially around Noisebridge) that there are different mutually exclusive audiences that like to share space. So if you can't stand the only space in your neighborhood, maybe others feel the same way and it's really time to start a new one. </div>
<div><br></div><div>In that sense I think Naomi's got it right with her argument for hackerspace diversity.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:algoldor@yahoo.com" target="_blank">algoldor@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><span>Hi to all,</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><span>i've been involved with both Noisebridge and Brmlab and they are great!</span></div>
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<span>The open environment and spirit are really important, it makes a huge difference
in how people think and feel about the place and consequently how they create and interact in the community. It is on this community then to keep the place running and florishing. Less rules seems to me better so far, people have to work out and thing/feel about what they are doing rather than just # read line number 23. It takes more time and effort to figgure things out but I consider it more worthy.<br>
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<span>I'm really curious about the Noisebridge after the reboot, it should be fun :-) and definitely about the Brmlabs new premssies +
special bigger place for Biolab.<br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal">
<br><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><span>Best of luck and enjoy,</span></div>
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<span>Sincerely from Jeju, South
Korea,<br></span></div><div> </div><div>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck</div><div><br><br></div><div>biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org" target="_blank">http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</a></div>
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<div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Friday, July 4, 2014 6:21 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES <aurelien@hackers.camp> wrote:<br>
</font> </div> <br><br> <div><br clear="none">Naomi using cheat code is grey? -_-'<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Joe
Bowser <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:bowserj@gmail.com" target="_blank">bowserj@gmail.com</a>> writes:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> Come on! That's like using cheat codes!<br clear="none">><br clear="none">
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Randall G. Arnold<br clear="none">> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:randall.arnold@texrat.net" target="_blank">randall.arnold@texrat.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>> Matt wins the thread.<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> On July 3, 2014 at 2:43 PM matt <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com" target="_blank">matt@nycresistor.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">
>> "movement" is a euphemism for taking a shit.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Al Billings <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:albill@openbuddha.com" target="_blank">albill@openbuddha.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Joe Bowser < <a shape="rect" href="mailto:bowserj@gmail.com" target="_blank">bowserj@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">
>>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Al Billings < <a shape="rect" href="mailto:albill@openbuddha.com" target="_blank">albill@openbuddha.com</a>><br clear="none">>>> wrote:<br clear="none">>>>> Yes. That’s why hackerspaces have been sprouting up, at least in America,<br clear="none">
>>>> over the last seven years.<br clear="none">>>><br clear="none">>>> So, is this a social movement? With activists and stuff? But I thought<br clear="none">>>> there was no room
for activists in this movement? Confusing!<br clear="none">>> You seem to be confused about the meaning of the word “movement."<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Al Billings<br clear="none">
>> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:albill@openbuddha.com" target="_blank">albill@openbuddha.com</a><br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="http://makehacklearn.org/" target="_blank">http://makehacklearn.org</a><br clear="none">
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