<div>There are issues like most spaces but I'm happy to discuss then. Tragedy of the Commons in an all volunteer organization in the shops, etc. <br><br>Al</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><p>On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Naomi Most <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com" target="_blank">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></p><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><p>Yeah, Ace Monster Toys is interesting. One of the guys at $DAYJOB is
<br>a member there. Thinks it's the bee's knees.
<br><br>Seems to me AMT is a good example of maintenance of culture via
<br>ongoing participation from founding members and a slavish attention to
<br>inculcating habits and general principles. Which is something I'm
<br>working on at Noisebridge.
<br><br>But I've never spent more than 10 minutes there and don't follow the
<br>mailing list. I'd be interested to learn a lot more about AMT -- the
<br>good and the bad -- and whether my conceptions based on what I've
<br>heard are well-founded or not.
<br><br>--Naomi
<br><br><br>On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Al Billings <albill@openbuddha.com> wrote:
<br>> Well, the president of my space is a Noisebridge member and our space was founded by Noisebridge refugees (as about 30% of our original membership) so there is a reason why we have traditionally contrasted ourselves with it. That said, other than watching the email list, I’ve ignored NB for a couple of years now and I will freely admit to only going across the bay once a year or so to it.
<br>>
<br>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi@gmail.com> wrote:
<br>>
<br>>> Also: why it's hilarious to me that whenever someone from noisebridge
<br>>> talks about Noisebridge, everyone from not-Noisebridge thinks (a) they
<br>>> are hearing a person defending Noisebridge and (b) that they are an
<br>>> expert on what's happened at Noisebridge.
<br>>>
<br>>> I don't claim to understand your spaces even half as well as you think
<br>>> you understand mine.
<br>>
<br>> Al Billings
<br>> albill@openbuddha.com
<br>> http://makehacklearn.org
<br>>
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