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    Luckily, like many on this list, I am a Pretengineer.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/29/14, 9:16 AM, Buddy Smith wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Guyzmo <span
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              On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 07:21:12PM -0800, Kevin Mitnick
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              > In some places it's illegal to call yourself an
              engineer with certain exceptions.<br>
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              Can you name places where it is illegal to name yourself
              an engineer?<br>
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            <div>In the USA, if you do not have a Professional Engineer
              license, you cannot practice as an engineer.</div>
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            <div>For example, you cannot start your own company and call
              it an engineering firm, or advertise yourself as an
              engineer.</div>
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            <div>It's similar to a doctor and a lawyer. Lots of people
              have job titles that involve engineering, or even are
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            <div>but they are not technically engineers.</div>
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            <div>"If you don't drive a train or have a PE license, you
              are not an engineer"</div>
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            <div>--buddy </div>
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