<div dir="ltr">Someone needs to sit down and talk to that man and explain that you aren't operating a dating club. He's not allowing her to be there on the same terms he is, which is fundamentally disrespectful. He needs to be made aware that he should treat every person there with respect, regardless of what form they happen to have. Someone needs to drive this home and help him understand that the lack of respect is harming her, him and the hackerspace's very reputation.<div>
<br></div><div>It's not a woman problem, it's a respect problem. I have personally seen inappropriate behavior by gay men, too. (Still waiting to see women harassing people, but I'm sure it's a matter of time/power dynamics until someone thinks they can get away with it.) The problem was (periodically) addressed by having someone the member they respected sit down with them and explain to them in excruciating detain the problem, making crystal clear that the behavior is unacceptable.<br>
<div><br></div><div>It's very difficult to totally address this problem, since giving someone the boot is usually pretty difficult in a hackerspace and would likely cause a lot of drama. </div><div><br></div><div>I really wonder why people engage in such self-defeating behavior, though.</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Pete Prodoehl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raster@gmail.com" target="_blank">raster@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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We have Rule #2 which is "Don't be a dick." as outlined here:<br>
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Arclight <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arclight@gmail.com" target="_blank">arclight@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>Well, if you want to have nice things, you have
to keep the space nice. The first step would be
for someone to privately talk to this individual
and let them know they are getting out of hand.
Don't drop hints, don't be ambiguous, and do this
in person, not e-mail or over the phone.This
should be sufficient if we're talking someone who
is not crazy.<br>
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If this doesn't do it, subsequent warnings can come
in the form of their key not working, and some large
dudes having any further discussions outside the
space in the parking lot. The language can be rather
less polite if necessary.<br>
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Don't ever play games like "trying to keep the weirdo
guy away from the girls" or other passive-aggressive
BS. If you don't trust them to be in your space
unsupervised, they should not be in the space in the
first place. Whether they are useful to your space in
other ways is not the issue here. Someone will step up
to replace what you lost, but you can't replace trust.<br>
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computer professionals to know what basic manners are
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<div>On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:59 AM,
Florencia Edwards <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:floev22@gmail.com" target="_blank">floev22@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<p>Hi all. On our hackerspaces there is this
person very active in the community of older age
(60ish), who started giving presents to a 26
year old staff member and asking her to report
when she got home because he worried somehing
would happen to her. Than he sent an email
saying he was in love with this member and that
he had expectations ,but all was lost when he
found out she had a boyfriend. The staff member
told him she wasnt intrested and to please keep
distance, respectfuly. After that he kept
sending emails saying that he needed this staff
memers attention to keep proactive in the maker
community. He sent another present<br>
This staff memer is tired of this, is doing an
ignore strategy but this person insists a lot.
Also the conmunity at the hackersoace love him
and learn a lot from him so its difficult to
just ban. </p>
<p>What do you recomend for this? How can
communicate with ths person so he stops
bothering the staff? Do you consider his
behavior arrasement?</p>
<p>Ill really appreceate answers</p>
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