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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><div>I am not an experienced physicist so please forgive me for not knowing that "lasing" refers to inducing a charged state in a crystal or gas in an oscillating or pulsed voltage. I am surely showing ignorance because I was unable to pull the details about what it actually meant out of my head. Forgive me for not having a background in physics research here!</div><div><br></div><div><br>It still doesn't describe food hacking.</div><div><br></div><br><br>Kevin Mitnick<br>(May or may not be the Kevin you think I am)<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:23:41 -0800<br>From: jamie.schwettmann@gmail.com<br>To: randall.arnold@texrat.net; discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org<br>Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Let's end the unnecessary joining of the words "food" and "hacking"<br><br><div dir="ltr">Kevin, your ignorance is showing. "Crystal formation" != "lasing". "Lasing" means inducing a quantum state change in a crystal or gas using an oscillating or pulsed voltage, such that the electrons drop state in unison, releasing polarized photon bursts in a narrow frequency range. Like I said, you aren't going to have an easy time explaining how any of these things work (or not) without technical detail, let alone actually creating them without novel approaches.<div>
<br></div><div>Hacking often means exploiting the less-obvious features of a system to get an interesting result. I propose a string of fluorescent pickles lighting every hackerspace. =P</div></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra">
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On January 27, 2014 at 9:58 PM Kevin Mitnick <<a href="mailto:kevin.mitnick@outlook.com" target="_blank">kevin.mitnick@outlook.com</a>> wrote:
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All you have described is a new process with working with foods. If I start to freeze curry, place it in a bag, vacuum seal it, and then cook it in boiling water without removing it from said bag, does it count as hacking? No. It just counts as a new preparation method.
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The inability to differentiate between "food hacking" and "food preparation" here is astounding.
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<br>If I come up with a new method to wash clothes, does that make me a garment hacker?
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A few food hacking possibilities:
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Vacuum-extracted coffee.
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Nitrous-extracted coffee.
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Synthesized caffeine.
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Polymerized chocolate.
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Polymerized cheese.
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Polymerized gluten chains.
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Edible batteries.
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Sugar candy prisms -- sugar candy lasers?
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I dare you to explain how/whether any of these could arise without invoking substantial technical detail, or to make them without using entirely the "wrong" tools in a haphazardly equipped hackerspace kitchen, or without inventing more tools, and still accurately predict the spectral analysis results that indicate success. Then, I dare you to test your spectral analysis predictions without inventing something on the spot... and it still has to be safe to eat afterwards. ;)
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Bonus points: make all of these psychoactive.
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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Kevin Mitnick
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In some places it's illegal to call yourself an engineer with certain exceptions.
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As a result, I reserve the right to not permit yourself to label yourself as a hacker. I can label you as someone who has an inability to contribute to a conversation without any meaningful content. I am assuming you're responding to my remarks on this mailing list due to the malaise you may experience questioning what you have chosen to label yourself?
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Oh. The ego hacking that is being engaged in this thread. By the way, is engineering "hacking" too? Can I be a geotechnical hacker? A chemical hacker? A computer hac... oh wait.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:45:19 -0800
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<pre>Kevin Mitnick wrote, On 2014-01-27 17:59:<br>> You amazingly managed to write a whole paragraph without actually<br>> explaining anything about what food hacking is.<br> <br>Why do you feel the need to tell others they cannot label themselves as<br>
they wish?<br> <br>-- <br>Rubin<br><a href="mailto:rubin@starset.net" target="_blank">rubin@starset.net</a><br> </pre>
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