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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Michel, Alex -- I've added you to my list of people to keep informed of upcoming opportunities while the HiR website is coming together. <br><br>Jerry asked about funding sources: Each space, of course determines their own means of funding their own HiR Program. <br><br>Tsinghua University is a public school, and is funded by the education ministry in China, which, as the name implies, funds education in China. Each school has its own budget. Tsinghua, as the most prestigious, has a large budget, and as is the case of most prestigious schools in the world, much of its budget is wasted on big, impressive projects that promote its importance. I'm glad to see Tsinghua taking this experimental step (to them -- but not to hackerspaces, or any other place where actual education is happening) for actually giving their students opportunities for actually learning what each didn't wants and needs to learn, for living lives each student finds way worth living. <br><br>With Tsinghua behind this, more Chinese schools will follow. And assuming the HiR Program will work as well there as we think it will, schools and universities all over China will start creating their own HiR Programs. <br><br>Using this as a popular model, I'm hoping (and it seems likely) that schools and universities everywhere will start their own HiR Programs. And with hackerspaces everywhere having their own HiR Programs, and supplying HiR Programs everywhere with Residents, I hope this will encourage more people to start hackerspaces around the world -- so more people have opportunities for some real education, for learning what each person wants and needs, for living lives each person finds way worth living. <br><br>(This is my motivation, anyhow.) <br><br>Best, <br>Mitch.<br> <br><br><hr>Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 05:54:24 -0200<br>From: alex.itajuba@gmail.com<br>To: discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org<br>Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Heads up: Int'l Hackers In Residence Program<br><br><div dir=ltr><div>Really cool! Saw some interesting ideas on that PiratePad text. <br><br>Count me in! I'll talk to other guys here in Brazil about that. <br><br></div>Alex<br></div><div class=ecxgmail_extra><br><br><div class=ecxgmail_quote>
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Michel Gallant <span dir=ltr><<a href="mailto:sfxman@gmail.com" target=_blank>sfxman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=ecxgmail_quote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div dir=ltr>Hi Mitch! Please also add me to the list of people interested in Hackers in Residence programs. I'm especially interested in Nicaragua and Vietnam because I have friends there already, but anywhere else including China is cool. Thanks!<br>
</div><div class=ecxHOEnZb><div class=h5><div class=ecxgmail_extra><br><br><div class=ecxgmail_quote>On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Mitch Altman <span dir=ltr><<a href="mailto:maltman23@hotmail.com" target=_blank>maltman23@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><div dir=ltr>As I said, this was just a heads-up for what's to come. We're still brainstorming for the website. We'll work with what's already happening on the <a href="http://hackerspaces.org" target=_blank>hackerspaces.org</a> Hackers In Residence page (which is pretty awesome!) When a first pass of the China HiR site is up, I'll spread the word!<br>
<br>In the meantime, feel free to email me off-list (as several already have), and I'll add you name to my list of people to contact about China (and other) Hackers In Residence Program opportunities. <br><br>(And I'll also encourage others to create agriculture, hostels, and whatever other programs they're into creating!) <br>
<br>Best, <br>Mitch. <br><br><hr>Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 16:13:11 -0800<br>From: <a href="mailto:algoldor@yahoo.com" target=_blank>algoldor@yahoo.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org" target=_blank>discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
CC: <a href="mailto:gmon01@gmail.com" target=_blank>gmon01@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:foodhacking@lists.hackerspaces.org" target=_blank>foodhacking@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Heads up: Int'l Hackers In Residence Program<div>
<div><br><br><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;"><div><span>Hi to all,</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;">
<span>The agricultural focus sounds around the lines of what we have been discussing with Greg from Cali recently and what the Food Hacking Base (fhb) project is partly about (in the formation process). Greg is working on bio reactors/incubators (which I'm into too), being also involved in agriculture. I'm especially after fermentaions, slow food and combining that with technology and science (food&beverage hacking) and due to the fact that I'm living now in South Korea on an island called Jeju, creating some type of "residency" with some basic and cheep housing and most
importantly facilities from a dirty workshop, electronic lab, computer lab, fermentation lab of course is more and more what I would like to initiate here. However in this case it would be rather people coming here for specific projects (theirs or ours) (or less specific :-) hanging around should be an option too), there is an artistic residence in the village already so people are familiar with the concept, but minimum of hackers.</span></div>
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<span>I would be particularly interested to talk to the people who may be interested in this aspect of the
hacker residence program, which I think is very nice umbrella or "spear" to make similar projects reality around the globe. It would be than more around the line of smaller hackerspace in the countryside, focused on specific projects with people coming and joining them/doing their own and also just hanging around.<br>
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<span>Sincerely from Jeju,<br></span></div><div> </div><div>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck</div><div><br><br></div><div>biotechnologist&kvasir and
hacker</div><br><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org" target=_blank>http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</a></div><div><br><br></div><div>"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi<br>
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<div dir=ltr> <font face=Arial> On Friday, November 8, 2013 6:17 AM, Mark Janssen <<a href="mailto:dreamingforward@gmail.com" target=_blank>dreamingforward@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div>Re: Hackers-in-residence.<br clear=none>
<br clear=none>It's a great idea. Thanks for sharing.<br clear=none><br clear=none>I have a bit more radical idea: hacker lofts and sustainable<br clear=none>agriculture programs to gain self-sufficiency (cf. permaculture).<br clear=none>
Partner with something like the Ingress on-line community, but start<br clear=none>staking out poorly utilized spaces by actually planting seeds to take<br clear=none>back the land to be self-sufficient.<br clear=none>
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