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I tried to organize a civic hacking event here this summer, as part of hackforchange.org. I encountered difficulty landing a decent venue accessible to all, and was pointed to a local community college. I made my pitch, and they responded with "we will get back with you with our site fee structure".
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I wanted a partner, not a landlord...
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*sigh again
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On October 16, 2013 at 3:07 PM Ben Brown <ben@generik.ca> wrote:
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<br/> I hear that. We never inquired about promotion on-campus, because they tend to insulate their students within the six square blocks around the University, which we aren't in.
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<br/> For us, it usually boils down to one word: Insurance.
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<br/> (as in we have it, but they require twelve months notice and nine committees to sign off on it just to give us the time of day)
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<br/> Ben
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On 10/16/2013 3:56 PM, Randall G. Arnold wrote:
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I can't say all of our experiences have been great. University bureaucracy has gotten in the way of our efforts, too. Very frustrating. Typical scenario:
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Me: I would like to connect your students with creative opportunities. We have equipment, resources, etc... just need an introduction to your students.
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College outreach officer: sounds like a lot of work for us.
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On October 16, 2013 at 2:44 PM Ben Brown
<a href="mailto:ben@generik.ca"><ben@generik.ca></a> wrote:
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<br/> Kwartzlab has tried to work with other local organizations, with varying results. We've tried to partner up with one of our local university for events, but their ridiculously bureaucratic nature has prevented us every time. At this point, I have no plans to try anything else with them.
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<br/> That said, we have partnered up with local grassroots arts and technology organizations for various events/causes to great success. We've also leveraged this community participation/recognition for an arts grant that bought us our laser cutter in 2010, and a provincial equipment grant from the Ontario Trillium Fund (provides no-strings-attached money to non-profits).
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<br/> We don't affiliate with organizations that have strings attached. We don't allow outside organizations to steer our space and it's future. We would not accept large donations or equipment from outside organizations in return for administrative control of our space. We remain independent.
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On 10/16/2013 1:52 PM, Florencia Edwards wrote:
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I wanted to ask you what you guys think about this. At our hackerspace people who manage it are trying to make some strategic alliances with universities, schools, culture centers... But I think it's not good. A hackerspace is an alternative to this institutions and methods of education. Making an alliance only makes this institutions try to use the hackerspace their way (they have more power), trying to preasure us to adapt to their methods of education, what their students need, special workshops... I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, . I love everyone to know about a makerspace or hackerspace and to come here to explore, but this institutions have a way of imposing or forcing things...
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Do any of you have experience with school or collages, are they good? Can you give me some advice?
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Cheers all
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