<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">My opinion:</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">People/organizations make really bad decisions when they're stressed out about money. These decisions frequently involve treating community members as consumers and making policy decisions that break community in an effort to make more money. This seldom ends well. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">In particular, accusing, implicitly or explicitly, your long-time, loyal membership of "taking advantage" of the organization is a pretty common response to financial difficulties, which is more or less what 3rd Ward did when they changed their membership policy (which caused a huge drop-off in membership in Brooklyn.)</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">This is actually super-important for hackerspaces, which tend to be scrappy, almost-broke community institutions that need to make some money to function -- it's really easy, when you're strapped for cash and trying to run this institution and keep paying the rent, to get frustrated with the people who are just using it and enjoying it and not worrying about money and to decide that they're not paying their share. And maybe it's true, but it's almost always better to ask people for help and/or discuss the problems your space is facing than to have the "management" make a decision in isolation.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">My further opinion:</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">If you're going to close a space, you should refund your members. If you're going to close a space, you're probably going bankrupt anyway, so it's not actually clear to me why you wouldn't endeavor to refund your members before paying your other debts (I, at least, consider m my duty to my community members to be of higher importance than my duty to my landlord or bank or whatever.) Perhaps there is some legal framework that's worth setting up here, perhaps a refund clause in your membership contract so that you can legitimately prioritize these refunds over other debts? Worth talking to a lawyer in your own particular locality about this, I expect. I plan on talking to one later tonight because I'm so curious.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Florencia Edwards <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:floev22@gmail.com" target="_blank">floev22@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">for those who didn't know, here is some comments on it by membres and staff on reddit<div><br></div>
<div><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/Brooklyn/comments/1o2qro/3rd_ward_may_be_closed_by_the_end_of_the_week/" target="_blank">http://www.reddit.com/r/Brooklyn/comments/1o2qro/3rd_ward_may_be_closed_by_the_end_of_the_week/</a><br>
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