<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Christie Dudley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:longobord@gmail.com" target="_blank">longobord@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> It's how all the crazy shit that goes on in the bay area (fire arts festival anyone?) could possibly happen. (And why Burning Man has not been sued out of existence.)</blockquote>
</div><br>Great advice, Christie and Gui! Insurance and liability are tricky subjects, but so important to us. Remember that as a nascent movement, we are going to be perceived as well as our worst members - if there were a few high-profile accidents and subsequent suings, it could affect perceptions for all of us. You aren't just protecting your space, you are protecting all of them!</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">As a funny aside, since Burning Man was mentioned, there was a funny lawsuit several years ago (Burning Man is CONSTANTLY being sued - they just have very good legal representation and have written their agreements very carefully). A man was hanging around intoxicated near the remains of a burned sculpture, which was now just a pile of burning wood on the ground. At this point the main perimeters have all been dropped and no one is hanging around "monitoring" it since it can't get larger or hotter than it currently is. The gentleman just walked into the fire for some reason, and was, of course, burned. Some bystanders pulled him out and helped him get medical assistance. Later he sued, claiming that Burning Man was negligent, since no one was there to tell him NOT to walk into the fire. The brilliant quote from the judge who dismissed his case was (and I'm only slightly paraphrasing), "Are you now, and were you then, aware that fire is hot?" "...yes." "OK, dismissed." The ruling in that case was that because the danger is evident to "reasonable persons" and the event had made no promises regarding special people who's job it is to stop you from walking into piles of fire, the event hadn't acted negligently, and wasn't liable for the injuries. Of course, this was no accident - Burning Man spends a lot of energy making sure it is in the clear - as we all should.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">-Sam</div></div>