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--></style></head><body><div data-externalstyle="false" dir="ltr" style="font-family:Calibri,'Segoe UI',Meiryo,'Microsoft YaHei UI','Microsoft JhengHei UI','Malgun Gothic','Khmer UI','Nirmala UI',Tunga,'Lao UI',Ebrima,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div>“ Regarding a "diversity of people", just getting a group of diverse people<br>together (like the open hardware format commitees that were recently<br>assembled) doesn't mean you are exhibiting any of the signs of<br>technical excellence”</div><div> </div><div>From misconceptions of diversity to straw men. I didn’t see that Lisha made any such claim. She included much more context.</div><div> </div><div>Randy</div><div>Tarrant Makers</div><div data-signatureblock="true"><div> </div><div> </div></div><div style="padding-top: 5px; border-top-color: rgb(229, 229, 229); border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid;"><div><font face="Calibri, 'Segoe UI', Meiryo, 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'Khmer UI', 'Nirmala UI', Tunga, 'Lao UI', Ebrima, sans-serif" style='line-height: 15pt; letter-spacing: 0.02em; font-family: Calibri, "Segoe UI", Meiryo, "Microsoft YaHei UI", "Microsoft JhengHei UI", "Malgun Gothic", "Khmer UI", "Nirmala UI", Tunga, "Lao UI", Ebrima, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;'><b>From:</b> Bryan Bishop<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 21 July, 2013 6:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> Lisha Sterling; Bryan Bishop<br><b>Cc:</b> Open Manufacturing; Hackerspaces General Discussion List; Catarina Mota; The Open Source Hardware Association Discussion List</font></div></div><div> </div>On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Lisha Sterling <lishevita@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> "Diversity of people" means to look beyond your small group of friends, your<br>> in circle, and find opinions that do not match your own to critique your<br>> ideas and add their own.<br><br>Regarding Amazon's failure to implement internationalization, that's<br>probably because of priorities and not because your developers are<br>idiots. Sorry, but Amazon's a business, and they had to make decisions<br>about what to tackle. I am not privy to the exact circumstances, but<br>I'm sure there are developers that were hired early on that have<br>previously implemented accessibility and internationalization before.<br>It's really hard not to have already done that if you've done any<br>programming-- most libraries practically force it on you.... Regarding<br>a "diversity of people", just getting a group of diverse people<br>together (like the open hardware format commitees that were recently<br>assembled) doesn't mean you are exhibiting any of the signs of<br>technical excellence. Responding to peer review, understanding<br>existing standards, would be a great start, for instance...<br><br>- Bryan<br>http://heybryan.org/<br>1 512 203 0507<br>_______________________________________________<br>Discuss mailing list<br>Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org<br>http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss<br></div></body></html>