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You're very stridently making the points in favor of everyone you're arguing with, Matt.</div><div id="reply-content"><br></div><div id="reply-content">I don't really care enough about your opinion to type a lengthier response on my phone. Enjoy being an asshole and have a good life.</div><div id="reply-content"><br></div><div id="reply-content">Al</div>
<div id="5BB8E0DB08174F5F80F53A5B68EE9C54"><div><br></div>-- <br>Al Billings<br>http://openbuddha.com<div><br></div></div>
<p style="color: #A0A0A8;">On Friday, January 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Matt Joyce wrote:</p>
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<div id="quoted-message-content"><div><div>Not trolling at all. I think that may be the dumbest thing I've read</div><div>all week.</div><div><br></div><div>You seriously don't see how utterly ridiculous that is? Let me psuedo</div><div>code this for you.</div><div><br></div><div>Here's a quick simplified logic set for your tone argument.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>import geekfeminism.wikia.com as legitimate.argument</div><div><br></div><div>expression_function_array[] = [ talk, write, sign, be an unbelievable</div><div>jerk, sing, interpretive dance, mood ring, self immolate , etc , etc2</div><div>]</div><div><br></div><div>express_self() {</div><div> feedback = ( expression_function_array[] )</div><div> return feedback</div><div>}</div><div><br></div><div>evaluate_feedback(feedback) {</div><div> switch feedback :</div><div> case: 'concerned about your tone'</div><div> evaluation = legitimate.argument.tone_Argument()</div><div> default:</div><div> evaluation = do_whatever()</div><div> return evaluation</div><div>}</div><div><br></div><div>main() {</div><div><br></div><div> feedback = express_self()</div><div> evaluation = evaluate_feedback(feedback)</div><div> if ( evaluation == legitimate.argument.tone_Argument() ) {</div><div> 'person providing feedback is attempting to avoid acceptance of</div><div>my concerns and I am being oppressed'</div><div> }</div><div><br></div><div>}</div><div><br></div><div>Now the first problem is that you imported from geekfeminism.wikia.com</div><div>a method and tried to apply it to your life. Adhering to the basic</div><div>tenets of random websites is no way to go through life.</div><div><br></div><div>The second problem is if express_self is using an array of express</div><div>functions. That's not an array. When you express yourself, there is</div><div>always a tone component. Sometimes we can set that component to NULL,</div><div>but for talking or sounding like an offensive jerk there is a definite</div><div>tone value.</div><div><br></div><div>So you should be using a dictionary there rather than an array.</div><div><br></div><div>And then you need to take the tone associated with any function of</div><div>expression into account when evaluating the feedback. Because there</div><div>is a chance that your tone has a finite state of offensive. That</div><div>would warrant a concern about your tone in the feedback that is</div><div>implicit. It's not generated as a result of your expressed data.</div><div>It's generated as a result of the expression function you used to</div><div>transmit that data. More to the point when this condition occurs</div><div>there is no bearing on the gender of the person or their position on</div><div>feminism or any other topic you may be transmitting data concerning.</div><div><br></div><div>Let me explain again in psuedo code. I'll demonstrate with the unsafe</div><div>geekfeminism.wikia.com class still loaded.</div><div><br></div><div># Not a standard library. Unauthenticated and dangerous prototype code</div><div>import geekfeminism.wikia.com as legitimate.argument</div><div><br></div><div>expression_function_array[] = { [talk, tone=normal] , [write,</div><div>tone=NULL] , [sign, tone=NULL] , [be an unbelievable jerk,</div><div>tone=offensive] , [sing, tone=melodic] , [ interpretive dance,</div><div>tone=NULL] , [ mood ring, tone=pastels ] , [ self immolate, tone=NULL]</div><div>, [ etc, tone=VALUE ] , [ etc2 , tone=VALUE ] }</div><div><br></div><div>express_self() {</div><div> feedback = ( expression_function_dict{} )</div><div> return feedback</div><div>}</div><div><br></div><div>evaluate_feedback(feedback) {</div><div> switch feedback :</div><div> case: 'concerned about your tone'</div><div> if ( tone == offensive ) {</div><div> print "tone offensive must load politeness module with</div><div>manners class instantiated")</div><div> exit(2)</div><div> } elsif ( tone == normal ) {</div><div> evaluation = legitimate.argument.tone_Argument()</div><div> } else {</div><div> evaluation = danger.possible.nutbag.raise_alert()</div><div> }</div><div> default:</div><div> evaluation = do_whatever()</div><div> return evaluation</div><div>}</div><div><br></div><div>main() {</div><div><br></div><div> feedback = express_self()</div><div> evaluation = evaluate_feedback(feedback)</div><div> if ( evaluation == legitimate.argument.tone_Argument() ) {</div><div> 'person providing feedback is attempting to avoid acceptance of</div><div>my concerns and I am being oppressed'</div><div> } else {</div><div> 'run for your very life this person could very well be a lunatic'</div><div> }</div><div><br></div><div>}</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>So this is a quick and simple fix to the logic for instantiating the</div><div>tonal argument that will solve for the case in which your tone is</div><div>offensive.</div><div><br></div><div>In reality there's still a problem. And that's with the tonal</div><div>argument method itself. It's using non explicitly defined values</div><div>improperly and the whole argument if called will segfault your</div><div>application of it.</div><div><br></div><div>Basically you can't use it without your application exploding all over</div><div>the place.</div><div><br></div><div>-Matt</div><div><br></div><div>On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Al Billings <albill@openbuddha.com> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>I agree that it is stupid when people tone police but it happens over and</div><div>over again. See this entire thread (including posts by you).</div><div><br></div><div>I see you signed your name so I can assume you're not simply trolling right</div><div>now?</div><div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Al Billings</div><div>http://www.openbuddha.com</div><div>http://makehacklearn.org</div><div><br></div><div>On Friday, January 18, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Matt Joyce wrote:</div><div><br></div><div>That is mind bogglingly stupid. And I don't mind saying so. You can</div><div>quote me on that.</div><div><br></div><div>-Matt</div><div><br></div><div>On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Al Billings <albill@openbuddha.com> wrote:</div><div><br></div><div>AKA "woman or other minority raises concern, dominant group responds with</div><div>criticisms of how concern was stated rather than addressing concern."</div><div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Al Billings</div><div>http://www.openbuddha.com</div><div>http://makehacklearn.org</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________</div><div>Discuss mailing list</div><div>Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</div><div>http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</div></div></blockquote><div>_______________________________________________</div><div>Discuss mailing list</div><div>Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</div><div>http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</div></div></div>
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