<div dir="ltr">At crashspace we worked out a laser time charge that was just a bit above cost to build up some money for anticipated maintenance, and put people on the honor system to purchase it using online tools or a cashbox, as well as soliciting occasional donations towards particular projects (new air filter, new attachments). Last I checked, we were just barely paying for the costs we've incurred so far. <br>
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Oh, and I should add that a significant portion of collected monies are set aside to pay for upkeep. We've had to replace a tube or two since we started and those aren't cheap.
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Ace Monster Toys charges for laser cutter usage.
</div><div><br></div><div>Seven (?) of us got together and fronted the money to buy the giant ass laser cutter and got it into the space. Once a quarter, out of funds collected, are are paid back a little on the investment.</div>
<div><br></div><div>We charge the public $1 a minute (this is from memory). AMT members pay $0.50 a minute. The original investors pay $0.25 a minute and it is applied against their investment monies owed.</div><div><br>
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<div>We built a little odometer that counts every second that the laser tube fires (we could build a better system maybe) automatically. We hand keep records of the tallies per user of readings when they started and stopped using on a given use. People bring their own materials in to laser cut from the approved list.</div>
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<p style="color:#a0a0a8">On Friday, January 18, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Arclight wrote:</p><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<span><div><div><div>Sorry to post off topic, but I have a hacker space related question.</div><div><br></div><div>We just acquired a new 3D printer (used commercial-grade machine) and</div><div>of course lots of people have already lined up to use it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>How do other spaces do cost recovery/sharing for machines like laser</div><div>cutters and 3D printers? We know we need to record what people use and</div><div>get them to pay for materials and money towards upkeep, but what's a</div>
<div>good system?</div><div><br></div><div>My experience in the past has been that some hackers either think</div><div>everything should be "at cost" (meaning materials+0.0% markup of any</div><div>type) and that "the collective" will chip in and pay for stuff when it</div>
<div>breaks. My experience with this is that someone is always left holding</div><div>the bag when some $300 expense pops up and passing the hat yields $38</div><div>and change.</div><div><br></div><div>Other folks (like me) feel that the space should charge members for</div>
<div>materials, plus money to bank for repairs and hidden costs, leaving</div><div>anything left over as profit/money towards a later replacement</div><div>machine.</div><div><br></div><div>What system does everyone use? Money jar next to the machine? RFID</div>
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