indeed, as shown by the last 30+ years<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Matt Joyce <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com" target="_blank">matt@nycresistor.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I've always considered hacker to be descended etymologically from the<br>
adjective "hackneyed" in deference to the amateurish nature of the<br>
pursuit.<br>
<br>
So when evaluating the application of the term I take into account<br>
whether or not the word remains true to it's historical lineage.<br>
<br>
-Matt<br>
<br>
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:43 PM, charlie wallace<br>
<<a href="mailto:charlie@finitemonkeys.com">charlie@finitemonkeys.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> it just seem more or less political. at some point a few years ago yet<br>
> another name(maker) came in to further segregate hacker, cracker, maker,<br>
> hobbyist, tinkerer , soldier spy etc.<br>
><br>
> we build from raw, recycle and add functionality, thats more to do with the<br>
> individual, not the label applied to them by someone else.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Georges Kesseler <<a href="mailto:georgeskesseler@yahoo.com">georgeskesseler@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I see it very basically:<br>
>> In a makerspace, you make new stuff from raw materials (design PCB, write<br>
>> softs, build machines...)<br>
>> In a hackerspace, you hack different functionality into existing stuff<br>
>> (radio-toaster, CDrom robot ...)<br>
>><br>
>> But also, in a hackerspace you can as well make new stuff from raw and in<br>
>> a makerspace you can recycle old materials.<br>
>> So the origin is different, the result is quite the same: creativity.<br>
>><br>
>> Georges<br>
>><br>
>> On 01/03/2013 11:41 AM, Frantisek Apfelbeck wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi to all,<br>
>> I remember discussions some year or more ago which were trying to "clear<br>
>> up" the difference between hackerspaces and makerspaces - when the "shift"<br>
>> started to happen (if not before). If I remember correctly most of the<br>
>> opinions were that the differences are in the amount of hardware hacking in<br>
>> makerspaces and more software hacking in hackerspaces. For me it sounds bit<br>
>> strange because many of either off do both and also the ratio changes with<br>
>> time and peopl involved. I do not remember references to makerspaces as<br>
>> being for profit. Is it now the case by definition? I still take makerspace<br>
>> = hackerspace.<br>
>><br>
>> I wonder if it is just me or if the makerspace/hackerspace communities are<br>
>> still virtually the same.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
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