<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Ok so lets get this right.</div><div><br></div><div>For-profit spaces that are not member run - OK</div><div>Non-profit member run spaces - OK</div><div>Non-profit spaces that have paid classes - OK</div><div>For profit spaces that have paid classes - Not OK</div><div><br></div><div>What about spaces that rely on local government for support would they be allowed?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I think trying to judge and measure each entity is an exercise in futility. Why not allow what is ?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>- William Reyor</div><div><br>On Jan 2, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Buddy Smith <<a href="mailto:buddy.smith@ieee.org">buddy.smith@ieee.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:42 PM, William Reyor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:opticfiber@gmail.com" target="_blank">opticfiber@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Should probably remove freespace Atlanta too then.</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br>
</div><div style="">You mean Freeside?</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">It's a non-profit, organized as a hackerspace. It self identifies as a hackerspace </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div></div><div><span style="font-family:'.HelveticaNeueUI';font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://sites.google.com/site/freesideatl/joining" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/site/freesideatl/joining</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:'.HelveticaNeueUI';font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><a href="http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/FreesideAtlanta" target="_blank">http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/FreesideAtlanta</a></span></div>
<div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap">Requires two members to sponsor, sounds elitist and exclusive to me.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap">Then again, who am I to start judging who belongs and who doesn't....<br>
</span></font><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="">I think there can be a distinction between "hackerspace" and "not hackerspace".</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">If you can justify it, then remove them. I think you'll find some objection.</div>
<div style=""><br></div><div style="">I think Freeside shares some number of qualities with most hackerspaces, and "Hacker Hostel" does not. It's not member-run, it's for profit, it's nothing more than a dorm and set of expensive IT classes.</div>
<div style=""><br></div><div style="">Personally, I think tech shops and hackerspaces/makerspaces should remain on the wiki. Coworking spaces should probably not be on the wiki, IT schools should not be on the wiki.</div><div style="">
<br></div><div style="">I think for-profit IT schools with no other links to the hackerspace movement should be deleted.</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">--buddy</div></div></div></div>
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