<html><head><base href="x-msg://646/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>I love teaching classes at hackerspaces! </div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; "><div>... what implications this has for advertising the nonprofitness of the space, etc. ... </div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>On this topic, I think it's totally worthwhile to decouple the idea of non-profitness from the idea of money/goods/ideas changing hands in general, especially in hackerspaces.</div><div><br></div><div>There seems to be a huge misconception floating around that a space being non-profit means it can't/shouldn't charge for events/classes/membership/whatever, or allow other kinds of commerce to occur in/around the space, when in fact, those are the most popular ways for educational non-profits to keep their lights on. The major qualifying aspect of what makes an organization non-profit is whether (and how) they reinvest (or otherwise return to the community) any surplus income that arises, not whether they make any at all. </div><div><br></div><div>If your non-profit accidentally makes a boat load of surplus, find a way to spend it awesomely!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>- Jamie</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-----</div><div>Unlock a new Hobby at <a href="http://CollegeofLockpicking.com">CollegeofLockpicking.com</a>!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; "><div> I don't think we have a resolution on that, but I'm interested in thoughts from folks here, too!</div><div><br></div><div>-Nate-</div><div><br></div><br>Jerry Isdale wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(211, 211, 211); "><div>Hackerspaces quite often have classes, right?</div><div>sometimes these are for members only, but many spaces teach public classes as a revenue stream (and to build community).</div><div>but hackers are generally not teachers and teaching, especially teaching the public can be difficult.</div><div><br></div><div>How have you prepared for teaching a class?</div><div>Have you tried teaching when you were only a bit more advanced than the students? </div><div>Sometimes this is necessary when starting a space - bootstrapping member knowledge!</div><div><br></div><br><div apple="apple" content="content" edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div>Jerry Isdale</div><div><a href="mailto:isdale@gmail.com">isdale@gmail.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>Discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org">Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></body></html>