Containers are meant to be outdoors, but only when storing things that can get a little wet. They aren't waterproof, and they aren't intended to be (which is one reason you ship items in them palletized). <div><br>
</div><div>Unfortunately most of the costs they have shown are for the containers alone. For instance, Space Lab calls out a cost of $10k for 4 containers. While that is about the cost of 4 8x8x20 Conex boxes in moderate condition, it doesn't include the cost of moving them around, preparing them to be used as a space, outfitting them with commercial style doors, adding lighting, power and fire protection, etc. And since it is commercial construction, you can't DIY it like you would at home - licensed contractors have to do all that work. And don't get me started on excise taxes for creating new occupy-able square footage in NYC.<div>
<br></div><div>Storage containers can make an interesting start to commercial building, but need a LOT of work to get past even a very friendly building department and fire marshal. They will need to be working with PEs and licensed Architects just to get to square one. I'd also recommend talking in DETAIL to people who've had major run-ins with building departments, such as NIMBY.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Sounds like too big of a bite to chew - can't bring myself to contribute. I'd love to see them start with a 4 container expansion to an existing building, done cleanly, permitted properly. Or maybe even a 1 container project to make a "movable hackerspace" that could be transported and dropped off anywhere. You'd avoid the enormous building department issues since it wouldn't be a permanent structure, and could be a good way to get used to some of the issues that would be faced with a larger site while still resulting in a cool, usable thing.</div>
<div><br></div><div>-Sam</div><div><br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Ron Bean <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:makerspace@rbean.users.panix.com" target="_blank">makerspace@rbean.users.panix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">Matt Joyce <<a href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com">matt@nycresistor.com</a>> writes:<br>
<br>
>Containers are intended to be used INDOORS.<br>
<br>
</div>Wait, what?<br>
<br>
I thought they were intended to he hauled around on trucks, trains, and<br>
cargo ships.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
>They need to be covered and raised off the<br>
>ground.<br>
<br>
</div>I'd agree with that part.<br>
<br>
The project page looks like a bunch of different projects that should be<br>
pursued separately. I don't see the point of making it one huge project.<br>
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