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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
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      As I see this, the idea of the spacephone (or "spacenphonzle" as
      it has been renamed to), is to be a SERVICE. A service to allow
      people talk / videotalk to eachother.<br>
      If I see it correctly, ChaosVPN and Agora are NETWORKS.<br>
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      You could implement a voip-network on top of chaosvpn, but you
      don't need to. If you want to reach all spaces, I think it makes
      more sence to design a service that can run over any kind of
      network infrastructure.<br>
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        Chéééério!<br>
        Kr. Bonne.<br>
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      On 29-08-12 23:45, Bacon Zombie wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">How about using the already existing ChaosVPN and
        Agora Link for this?</p>
      <p dir="ltr"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://wiki.hamburg.ccc.de/ChaosVPN">http://wiki.hamburg.ccc.de/ChaosVPN</a></p>
      <p dir="ltr">If you don't know what either of these are I'll quote
        a syn2cat post;<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">"Both ChaosVPN and Agora Link regroup various
        hackerspaces under a common private network link together.
        ChaosVPN mainly regroups European hackerspaces, whereas Agora
        Link regroups American hackerspaces.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Both groups represent a common intranet platform
        developed by and for hackerspaces. It more precisely is a
        software based mesh vpn service that connects hackerspaces
        around the world on a common LAN to help facilitate projects and
        collaboration."</p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On 29 Aug 2012 22:33, "Joshua Pritt" <<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ramgarden@gmail.com">ramgarden@gmail.com</a>>
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          Take a look at the google document we are putting together to
          get our ideas on paper!
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:01 PM,
              Ryan Rix <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ry@n.rix.si" target="_blank">ry@n.rix.si</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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                We have had a skype stream going with Hackerdojo's water
                cooler for a few<br>
                months now and have heard no complaints. People just
                mute it when they don't<br>
                want to be heard, and turn it back on when they're done,
                as far as i can tell.<br>
                <br>
                I for one welcome our telepresence overlords and hope
                that more spaces do it!<br>
                I would love to have a big SIP phonebook of hackerspaces
                to talk to.<br>
                <br>
                r<br>
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                    On Wed 29 August 2012 07:10:04 Tim Saylor wrote:<br>
                    > We have anti camera complainers in our space
                    too.  Let them do the fun<br>
                    > spoiling, no need to spoil it on their behalf.
                     A 24x7 video uplink would<br>
                    > be awesome, and be very helpful in creating a
                    feeling of connection between<br>
                    > the spaces.<br>
                    ><br>
                    > On Aug 29, 2012 4:06 AM, "Nils Hitze" <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:nhitze@gmail.com" target="_blank">nhitze@gmail.com</a>>
                    wrote:<br>
                    > >  Concerning the streaming between
                    hackerspaces, I would be careful there.<br>
                    > ><br>
                    > >> I'm supporter of interconnecting
                    hackerspaces and movement as much as<br>
                    > >> possible, having for  example some
                    cool specifically looking "dedicated"<br>
                    > >> machine at each hackerspace for
                    communication of whatever type (audio,<br>
                    > >> video), would be great (especially if
                    we consider the upcoming satellite<br>
                    > >> communication system which has to be
                    coordinated somehow from various<br>
                    > >> hackerspaces, right?). However I have
                    seen some quite strong opposition<br>
                    > >> of<br>
                    > >> "cameras in the place" for example at
                    Noisebridge. And in a way, I see<br>
                    > >> the<br>
                    > >> reason why to be careful there.<br>
                    > ><br>
                    > > So Morse Ticker would be ok, right?<br>
                    > ><br>
                    > >
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                <span><font color="#888888">--<br>
                    Ryan Rix<br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://rix.si"
                      target="_blank">http://rix.si</a><br>
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