<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>And like hackers... They were seen as a subculture and anarchists in some people's eyes even though I was just stoked to pop a nollie into a frontside grind... And then fall and be hurt badly.</div><div><br></div><div>Also all hackers are skateboarders... Didn't you see the movie 'Hackers'?</div><div><br></div><div>Haha... And it's fun and brings together a little community. :)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers! </div><div><br></div><div>sram|mars</div><div><br></div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Dec 5, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Will Bradley <<a href="mailto:bradley.will@gmail.com">bradley.will@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>I think in the early days of skateboarding, property owners objected to skaters using their property as a skate park (for example, empty round-bottomed pools or concrete lots) and skaters were arrested for trespassing. Also, conflicts with pedestrians or cars made skaters be considered a public nuisance.</p>
<p>The counterargument is that if nobody was injured or property damaged, skaters should be allowed to practice their sport especially in semi-public areas.</p>
<p>Since then, skate parks and bike lanes have been created to facilitate the sport with less conflict, but the debate over use of public and abandoned/unused space is still relevant.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 5, 2011 5:32 PM, "Marc Juul" <<a href="mailto:marcjc@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:marcjc@gmail.com">marcjc@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Mars brown <<a href="mailto:itcamefrommars@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:itcamefrommars@gmail.com">itcamefrommars@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> For fun I'm offering to make up some vinyl cut stickers that say<br>
> HACKING IS NOT A CRIME<br>
> kind of like the old SKATEBOARDING IS NOT A CRIME style.<br>
<br>
It's very awesome that you're making these stickers :-)<br>
<br>
Pardon my ignorance on this issue but I have a few questions. Maybe<br>
I'm the only one, but I never entirely understood these "skateboarding<br>
is not a crime" stickers. Obviously, in many places, skateboarding is<br>
actually a crime. Are they a reference to the fact that people prevent<br>
skateboarding by adding little nubs and physical barriers that prevent<br>
skating even though it is still legal? And isn't it more common that<br>
skateboarding is actually made illegal (through park rules / city<br>
laws) in combination with these barriers? Is the actual message<br>
"skateboarding should not be illegal", and if so, why say it like<br>
this?<br>
<br>
Switching to the matter of hacking, isn't the more important message<br>
that hacking is not unethical and should not be prevented by technical<br>
nor legal measures? Yeah I don't have a catchy sticker text for that<br>
message, but i'm not sure that "hacking is not a crime" is a great way<br>
to state it.<br>
<br>
Maybe I'm missing something and perhaps someone can enlighten me?<br>
<br>
--<br>
Juul<br>
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