I take part on this list some with another name - but -<br>Posting this anonymously as much as I can or care to... didn't proxy so please don't IP me if that's avail through the registration.<br>I even made a separate email account to bring this up and seek advice so that it's not too apparent where I am from. I am in a relatively small but major city in the united states o'merica.<br>
Perhaps more than advice - I just need to vent/discuss/and hear others stories of success out of dwindling interest or just similar frustrations.<br><br>Here's the bit - I found out about hackerspaces 2 years ago now from an old friend that looked me up just to tell me about the concept and the local one that he had just discovered - he never joined - saw the writing on the wall but me... I'm hopeful, or was at least for a while.<br>
<br>SO excited! WOW! For soooo long I had needed something like this to collaborate - relate - and incubate.<br><br>I showed up with bells on - was waiting for the next meeting like it was Xmas morning for a 10 year old.<br>
Saw someone there even from 2600 back in the day (90's) - he had just heard about it too!<br><br>It was neat... lots of fun! Everyone was friendly and seemingly interested in what I do and my crazy mad science stuff... in this area that is really a treat!<br>
I brought in a robot I was working on - old science equipment w nixie displays - some professional VR equipment - even a baby food sized jar 1/4 full of pure cesium that I offered to have a cesium explosion party and film with my ultra slow mo camera! that's about half a grand$$$ of cesium :/ minimum!<br>
Make a long story short... I became more and more frustrated and disappointed with all of the talking, meetings, and further dragging bootay and never really doing anything of much.<br>Over and over I've had hopes of new ideas and projects that are discussed, sometimes met upon, but never (or usually never) executed. It really seems like 95% of everything was about having meetings - kinda like playing hackerspace make believe... might as well get out the stuffed animals and put meters and irons in their paws. <br>
<br>Over time the group has dwindled - membership has dropped from the incubation period - and many people have come to visit/check out but quickly leave (and I suspect snickering) and never shown up again! YUG! I may actually be the last member that joined and is still around!- As in noone has joined since I had! well that I know of.<br>
In fact - I'm not sure there are any members other than myself that were not in the original gang to put it together!<br><br><br>So with any group there is going to be some people more interested/able/have time/active than others... but I can't personally / don't personally have any interest of herding cats that don't have the time/delusion/etc. Don't get me wrong... good people here and some have been active a little(as much as they could) but all but one are gone/moved and the one left seems to think it's all a joke now or seems uninterested too.<br>
I think I became a bit unpopular for a while with some when I started to voice my "poop or get off the pot" attitude after a year or so of frustration.<br>When I get to the point that I want to say something... let's just say I believe in open source honesty - I don't believe in beating around the bush too much... and admittedly can sometimes be a bit harsh to make sure I'm heard when I'm not. I know when to give up.. but maybe hold on a tiny bit longer than I should.<br>
<br><br>SO many people have shown interest in the past but if they showed up they never showed up agian-<br>I've spent ALOT of time in this 'space the last 2 months - and NOT ONCE HAS ANOTHER SOUL SHOWED UP! I'm talking some 12-14 hour days here. And I'm also talking 5 days a week!<br>
I've meet multiple people around town that have said they've "heard of X hackerspace in town" with a kind of a snickering tone.<br>People have shown up from out of town even (from other hackerspaces) when there should be a regularly scheduled meeting that is publicized - and I feel bad that they wasted their time while in town because there is noone around! I'm the one that finds the note on the door - they end up talking to the owner of the building and I'm sure he says "oh they're never there... I don't know why they're wasting their time."<br>
I send a message out to others in the group that we missed a fellow hackspace person and noone seems to care. <br>HOW EMBARRASSING! <br>I mean this is an awesome fun crazy city to visit... I can't imagine how disappointed I'd be if I made time while here to visit and noone was around when their website says they would be. I mean... regular scheduled meeting and NOONE is there!?!?!?! I'd be pretty pissed if I knew that they just slack hardcore and inconsiderately fail to update their website - HOW RUDE!<br>
<br>I once read Bre's (makerbot) tweets (or something... forgot where the
comment was) that he was hoping to visit our group while in town but was
sick and couldn't - Honestly I was thankful for him.<br><br>I've tried to come up with projects or organize stuff... even got some excitement and interest - but again - once it's time to do anything - NOTHING happens!<br>
What should I do? Start my own group? <br>I've thought about it - <br>I've registered a site and all... <br>I have a few people that I do stuff with in town... I don't want to hurt any feelings - especially after getting so frustrated and kinda bitchy (that was a year or so ago) <br>
and don't want any bad blood situations.<br><br>I don't know - I don't know... <br>It seems that this HS is a case of organizing a group for the sake of organizing a group.<br>I think that organizing out of necessity or some other benefit of taking that step.<br>
I feel like this is more of "hey guys - look ! Hackerspaces! What a nifty idea! I want to have one around so that I'll actually be inspired to do something! Let's make one so that we'll do something!" - but that comes from a group of people who all lack the motivation to do anything on their own.<br>
<br>One of the great things about a hackerspace SEEMS to be mutual inspiration - it can be very motivating to work on projects together!<br>But what if you have a dozen people that want to do nifty neat-o things but have little individual motivation - <br>
This is pretty much just a sociological experiment to prove that organizing a bunch of people together with little motivation proves to not synergize group motivation. :(<br>I just feel that it's a shame and it kind of hogs the place for a hackerspace in my locale - in fact I think it makes the entire concept of hackerspaces a joke in this area.<br>
Yeah, I know - harsh... but seriously true from people I've met and didn't know I had anything to do with ours.<br><br>I actually pay dues again in hopes.<br>There's one harbor freight 3$ meter here... a HF soldering iron with a messed up tip (they only last a day or so)... some jelly bean macs... and everyones garbage that they don't want to throw out but donate it to here so that it doesn't clutter their own house.<br>
<br>I now rent a studio next door (10 months now) and have an open door policy to my equipment and resources.<br>Thousands and tens of thousands of components - makerbot and repraps - large format printers(24") and plotter cutters(4 footer and 2 footer) - laptops galore - thousands of vintage vacuum tubes - every cable known to man (I personally love old 100pin cannon connectors) - tons of motors/servos/steppers from toy size to industrial 20 pounder servos left over from NASA - lots of aluminum stock/polycarb/acrylic/hardware - alpha/beta/gamma sources :) - 1st half of a CNC setup built - tons of professional design and graphics stuff (I owned a sign shop in the 90's) - an Xray machine from the 50's (actually everything from an old dental office) - robots and lasers (of course!) - lot's of scientific equipment - every tool known to man - 100's of different IC's (some hundreds of each - hell I have 10,000 7805's!!!) - etc etc etc... I could go on and on - I have wide nerd-dom interests and have been around for almost 40 years.. .point is... resources are not an interest issue - and I make it all available for free... but only got a taker once for some 3mm old school green leds. :(<br>
<br>Again... Bitching and moaning here... and looking for advice and/or discussion to anyone interested in a positive and productive way (even if I sound pretty frustrated and giving off negative energy)<br>I've visited other hackerspaces in the USA and wow... how I wish we had something like that here :(<br>
<br>sincerely.... <br>anonymously supa dupa frustrated <br>