<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I wonder if Space Federation has a way to make this less painless? Seems like something we'd all benefit from if we pooled our resources and bought in bulk, or at least standardized so we each weren't reinventing the recurring-membership-billing wheel. HeatSync uses PayPal right now but it's definitely not ideal.<br>
<br>On Nov 1, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Carlyn maw <<a href="mailto:carlynorama@gmail.com">carlynorama@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Yeah, we looked at freshbooks a while back - I can't remember why they didn't stick, i'll poke my nose there again, too.<div>
<br></div><div>That is good to know that while <a href="http://Auth.net">Auth.net</a> might work with the cart, the recurring billing might not. I'll keep my eye on that in module descriptions.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'll keep people posted as we go. We might do Amazon as a stop gap for now, for the shopping cart part of what we do, since google checkout doesn't work with Zen cart and that is what we are actively using to sell classes right now. Do they work internationally?</div>
<div><br></div><div>I just got a note from google check out about the Dontaions thing, too. We aren't frozen though. Apparently you can't even use the word in relationship to the button - not just the type of button, heads up.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>--Carlyn<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Chris Hardee <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shazzner@gmail.com">shazzner@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><a href="http://Auth.net">Auth.net</a> has a recurring billing option, but it didn't work for us (requires to write your own interface with their api or have a processor that uses it). Initially we tried to tie our sign up with a webstore, but it wouldn't up being more work and maintenance then we wanted. We use Freshbooks for recurring billing and they're a pretty slick outfit and haven't had an issue with them at all. Your mileage may vary.<div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Carlyn maw <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carlynorama@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlynorama@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Google Checkout's Recurring payments seem to *still* only be in beta, sadly, nor do they have a ZenCart plugin that works, but for single payment stuff we're using them. Anyone already using the beta recurring stuff? <br>
<br>Amazon's payments does support recurring already - and works with Zen Cart (where we are), doesn't work with Drupal Commerce yet (where we are likely going, but I could try to help with that I guess), does work with Drupal Ubercart (still an option). I guess maybe, but for some reason I'm skeptical of it. Not sure why. Think it will make more of our member balk than google checkout or just a merchant account. I guess I'll just ask at the meeting tonight. Thoughts?<div>
<br></div><div>Yeah, If I'm gonna trail-blaze, I'm not sure why, but I'd rather use Google Commerce than Amazon Payments but that may not be based on any actual facts. Anyone have any. I'm prepared to be wrong.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I was honestly looking for something where what vendor we are using to process our payments was one where they didn't have to have an account with someone other than just us, mostly because once we get the paypal thing resolved, we'll probably still use them, pathetic I know. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>-- Carlyn<div><div><br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Will Bradley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:will@heatsynclabs.org" target="_blank">will@heatsynclabs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>Alternatives to PayPal include Google Checkout and Amazon Payments btw, you can check those out too for something quick.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 1, 2011 4:24 AM, "Neil" <<a href="mailto:hackspc@narwani.org" target="_blank">hackspc@narwani.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi all,<br>
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New to this list and still lurking, until I get around to an intro. However, some quick notes re: merchant accounts...<br>
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Beware: there are 2 general rates you get charged at -- the base rate and the corp/rewards/int'l rate. The latter is higher and applies to any international CC, corporate CC, and any CC where the card-holder gets any form or reward (cash back, miles, points, etc). And the catchy low rate is if you physically swipe the card vs. keying it in via a virtual terminal (website such as <a href="http://authorize.net" target="_blank">authorize.net</a>).<br>
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In theory, I was supposed to be paying 2.9% base rate and a bit higher for the corp/int'l/rewards cards, but in practice (from bank statements) it seems that in the past year over 95% of my transactions are charged at the higher rate, and that works out to be ~5.9% (!!!). Remember there's a flat per-transaction charge also.<br>
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Most will accept MC/Visa/Disc, and Amex is usually separate/higher.<br>
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Don't forget to ask about monthly fees, annual fees (yes, some have both), chargeback fees, refund fees (yes, some charge a percentage to issue a refund), statement fees, batch fees (daily for sending the money to you account), and minimums.<br>
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I've been shopping for a new processor again, and so far Chase seems to be one of the better ones, at 2.25% + $0.20 for either base or corp/int'l/rewards cards. I have a list of different rates/fees/etc from a handful of other companies and can get it for you when I get back.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Quoting Chris Hardee <<a href="mailto:shazzner@gmail.com" target="_blank">shazzner@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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We use our bank's merchant services along with <a href="http://Auth.net">Auth.net</a> to process<br>
payments, which in turn we use freshbooks to handle reoccuring billing and<br>
keep track of accounts.<br>
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On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Carlyn maw <<a href="mailto:carlynorama@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlynorama@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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So CRASH Space just tried to get a merchant services account via<br>
<a href="http://dharmamerchantservices.com" target="_blank">dharmamerchantservices.com</a> and they were cool, but their under writing<br>
bank (Moneris) was freaked out by the fact that we, gasp, taught lock<br>
picking and associated with "hackers." I think it is kinda funny.<br>
<br>
They are going to put us in touch with someone else, although it is likely<br>
we'll just go with our bank and sign up with <a href="http://authorize.net" target="_blank">authorize.net</a> directly, but<br>
anyone have a credit card processing group they like? Anyone know anything<br>
about <a href="http://beanstream.com/" target="_blank">http://beanstream.com/</a> ? I'm probably going to call them tomorrow<br>
just to get a feel for them.<br>
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Happy Halloween...<br>
Best,<br>
-- Carlyn<br>
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