<p>In new york city, the world outside of the city is referred to as jersey or upstate. It may as well be the cornfields. It is a place all fear and none dare to tread. <br>
On Sep 2, 2011 10:23 AM, "Jerry Isdale" <<a href="mailto:isdale@gmail.com">isdale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Maui you can drive hit all the major population spots with a solid day of driving, most of it about 10-15mph, and no place with more than maybe 30,000 people. I'd be up for hosting a mini-camp, and am considering doing a Science Hack Camp (<a href="http://sciencehackday.com/">http://sciencehackday.com/</a>) with an intense hack-a-thon followed by a week of beach time for visitors. I've never been to a ccc event so i'm not sure what would be involved. Not sure if we could get enough people to fly in.<br>
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> Jerry Isdale<br>
> <a href="http://MauiMakers.com">http://MauiMakers.com</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/">http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/</a><br>
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> On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:06 AM, James Arlen wrote:<br>
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> > Ahh yes, I totally agree about the eastern seaboard of North America (including Southern Ontario and Southern Quebec in that) but then us crazy Canadians come into the mix - driving from Toronto west, just to get out of Ontario takes about 26 hours - just over 1900km -- and driving west from Toronto to the next city of approximately 1 million people (Calgary) is ~3500km and nearly 45 hours.<br>
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> > The population density of Canada is nearly all in 4 major pockets (Montreal, Toronto/Mississauga/Hamilton, Calgary/Edmonton and Vancouver) and driving between those four (east to west) is ~5600km and 3 days of driving.<br>
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> > Hitting three of the four European cities that are larger than the largest Canadian city is going to be 1800km in about 20 hours of driving!<br>
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> > The difference in distances just boggles my mind -- in Canada, you have to drive for 3 days to see ~18 million people. In Europe, you can see more than ~40 million in one day.<br>
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> > Of course, this is from someone who commutes 150km to get to and from work every day.<br>
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> > :)<br>
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> > J<br>
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> > James Arlen<br>
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> > On 2011-09-02, at 6:03 AM, Walter van Holst wrote:<br>
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> >> On 9/1/11 3:12 PM, James Arlen wrote:<br>
> >>> Things are so much different for you crazy europeans - you can drive through about 8 countries before some of us can drive out of the province we live in!<br>
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> >> That actually is a bit of a myth. There were people from Macedonia at CCCamp2011, and the distance they had to travel was equal to about 1600 km overland, while traveling from Atlanta takes about the same distance.<br>
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> >> If you realise that the Eastern seaboard of North-America is roughly equally densely populated as Western-Europe, the difference isn't that big anymore.<br>
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> >> There are obivously lots of other things that may or may not explain the differences.<br>
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> >> Regards,<br>
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> >> Walter<br>
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