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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Jaromil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaromil@dyne.org">jaromil@dyne.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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dear Matt,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011, Matt Joyce wrote:<br>
<br>
> Asking the internet at large or in this case a stand alone complex<br>
> to adhere to your own personal form of morality is both ineffectual<br>
> in method and ill conceived in purpose.<br>
<br>
</div>there is no presumption of morality in my letter (lets leave that to<br>
priests) and the word ethic is quoted from the use made by people way<br>
more knowledgeable than us on the history of hacking, which i thought<br>
was a good reference.<br>
<br>
that letter is just a critical view. and so far i didn't read much of<br>
this kind of reflections, to the contrary, i've read just self<br>
motivating and very oppositional prose from all sides (a prose that i<br>
enjoy myself reading, sure, as much as i like playing RTS) and now i'm<br>
aware of the risks of exposure i'm facing. but i feel time is ticking<br>
and it might be too late when the consequences of the current<br>
situation become evident.<br>
<br>
ultimately i feel the urge to address all the investments flowing into<br>
cyber-security that has just been announced between the last G8 and<br>
this NATO release. ACTA, DRM and various other threats to civil rights<br>
which will be justified as policy and funded by tax payers.<br>
<br>
ultimately, this is their strategy, if you didn't catch it yet.<br>
<br>
and i know we have the power to do much more and that the networks<br>
will multiply and that anonymity will be forever, sure, i enjoy the<br>
epic lolz. yet for all that to happen and for wikileaks to keep<br>
online, there is no need for a war. lets call it a reality check.<br>
<br>
now i guess you don't like my criticism, however let me explain: i've<br>
been (relatively safely) going through an hackers crackdown in the mid<br>
90s and since then i'm concerned on the use of automated surveillance,<br>
its unjustified growth, its use against scape goats as hackers and<br>
smart kids. that's what i'm talking about.<br>
<br>
but ok, if you really like to liquidate such an attempt with your<br>
pulitzer prose i guess i can't help you much, my mood is quite<br>
different and i give peace a different meaning. you remind me of those<br>
anti-capitalists that were happy about the bombing of the WTC in NYC:<br>
they were so fool not to realize that the real disaster came after,<br>
and it came for all of us.<br>
<br>
ciao<br>
<br>
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