<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I just pooped a little. But in a good way. <br><br>In all seriousness, this is not the proper way to instigate a "battle cry". Without being called to action, we as hackers, instigate our own reaction to political wrong doings. One act at a time we break down the walls of protected information. At our leisure of course. </div><div><br></div><div>-Dave -Agent5-</div><div><br>On Jun 4, 2011, at 6:16 PM, James Arlen <<a href="mailto:myrcurial@thinkhaus.org">myrcurial@thinkhaus.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>I <3 you. A little too much. </p>
<p>Additionally,</p>
<p>Your Mom.</p>
<p>As well, </p>
<p>America, fuck yeah. </p>
<p>With peaceful affection,</p>
<p>J <br>
</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 2011-06-04 6:09 PM, "Matt Joyce" <<a href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com"><a href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com">matt@nycresistor.com</a></a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> Dear crazy person,<br>> <br>> Asking the internet at large or in this case a stand alone complex to<br>
> adhere to your own personal form of morality is both ineffectual in method<br>> and ill conceived in purpose. Fuck your desire for a better name for<br>> hackers. People are what they are and we should all just learn to accept<br>
> that. Hackers are people. Just like people they can be as horrible as the<br>> smell that emanates from bad chinese food and as wonderful as two girls at<br>> the same time. Suggesting that people should try to artificially promote a<br>
> false outward view is to promote deception. And deception is the road to<br>> ruin. I personally abhor your request and will today go out and do<br>> something horrible to someone in the name of hackers everywhere just to<br>
> stand upon my point with full and honest conviction.<br>> <br>> Hackers are all we can be. Don't expect more. Don't expect less. And<br>> don't expect us.<br>> <br>> Additionally,<br>
> <br>> Your mom.<br>> <br>> Love and Peace,<br>> <br>> Matt<br>> <br>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Jaromil <<a href="mailto:jaromil@dyne.org"><a href="mailto:jaromil@dyne.org">jaromil@dyne.org</a></a>> wrote:<br>> <br>
>><br>>> please distribute to anyone interested<br>>><br>>> OPEN LETTER TO THE ANONYMOUS LEGIONS<br>>><br>>> in reply to<br>>><br>>> 074 CDS 11 E - INFORMATION AND NATIONAL SECURITY<br>
>> <a href="http://www.nato-pa.int/default.asp?SHORTCUT=2443"><a href="http://www.nato-pa.int/default.asp?SHORTCUT=2443">http://www.nato-pa.int/default.asp?SHORTCUT=2443</a></a><br>>><br>>> and to<br>>><br>>> LulzSec versus FBI (we challenge you, NATO!)<br>
>> <a href="http://pastebin.com/MQG0a130"><a href="http://pastebin.com/MQG0a130">http://pastebin.com/MQG0a130</a></a><br>>><br>>> re all<br>>><br>>> We all know that cyberspace has come to an intense moment of<br>>> confrontation; it will become more and more difficult to focus on the<br>
>> very reasons of the conflict opening, as the fog of war is<br>>> rising. This Open letter is an effort to focus on what is happening.<br>>><br>>> Hackers: behind all our actions there is a pulsating will to make<br>
>> justice and to protect our freedoms. Fighting injustice has long moved<br>>> the hearts and souls of many people in history.<br>>><br>>> Meanwhile, the state of asymmetric cyber warfare in 2011 is<br>
>> paradoxical: national defense departments against kids in their<br>>> bedrooms, an exaggeration depicting well the deep necessity of reform<br>>> faced by all forms of organized intelligence that existed before the<br>
>> proliferation of digital networks; namely the most populous one, the<br>>> Internet, now 18 years old.<br>>><br>>> As usual, the reasons why members of an organization like NATO are<br>>> moved to fight are related to territorial control and predominance;<br>
>> likewise, the reasons moving the legions of Anonymous are in their<br>>> deepest sense, and behind the lulz, a political stance supported by<br>>> natives and, as such, have a huge constituent potential.<br>
>><br>>> The reasons that invigorate today the courage of the Legions of<br>>> Anonymous are also very similar to the political reasons that made the<br>>> Legion of Underground declare war to Iraq and China in 1999:<br>
>><br>>> the reiterated threats to the freedom of the population;<br>>><br>>> the state's efforts to censor, monitor and manipulate the natural flow<br>>> of information;<br>>><br>>> the lies that monopolies, corporations and governments use to hide<br>
>> failures in the eyes of their citizens and clients;<br>>><br>>> the resistance of nations to move out of obsolete forms of governance<br>>> engulfed by media-dictatorships;<br>>><br>>> the oppression against investigative journalists, hackers and such<br>
>> liminal figures operating on the edges of semiospheres;<br>>><br>>> to name just a few.<br>>><br>>> Since this scenario is not new, please consider the war that might be<br>>> profiling ahead by reading further the statement below.<br>
>><br>>> Solid.<br>>><br>>> LoU STRIKE OUT WITH INTERNATIONAL COALITION OF HACKERS:<br>>> A JOINT STATEMENT BY 2600,<br>>> THE CHAOS COMPUTER CLUB,<br>>> THE CULT OF THE DEAD<br>>> COW,<br>
>> !HISPAHACK,<br>>> L0PHT HEAVY INDUSTRIES,<br>>> PHRACK AND PULHAS<br>>><br>>> Date: 7.1.1999<br>>><br>>> An international coalition of hackers strongly condemns the Legion of<br>
>> the Underground's (LoU) recent "declaration of war" against the<br>>> governments of Iraq and the People's Republic of China. Citing human<br>>> rights violations and other repressive measures the LoU declared their<br>
>> intention to disrupt and disable Internet infrastructures in Iraq and<br>>> China. In a decision that was more rash than wise, the LoU will do<br>>> little to alter existing conditions and much to endanger the rights of<br>
>> hackers around the world.<br>>><br>>> We - the undersigned - strongly oppose any attempt to use the power of<br>>> hacking to threaten or destroy the information infrastructure of a<br>>> country, for any reason. Declaring "war" against a country is the most<br>
>> irresponsible thing a hacker group could do. This has nothing to do<br>>> with hacktivism or hacker ethics and is nothing a hacker could be<br>>> proud of.<br>>><br>>> Frank Rieger of the CCC said, "Many hacker groups don't have a problem<br>
>> with Web hacks that raise public awareness about human rights<br>>> violations. But we are very sensitive to people damaging networks and<br>>> critical systems in repressive regimes or anywhere else. The police<br>
>> and intelligence communities regard hacking as seditious. It is quite<br>>> possible now that hackers - not only in totalitarian states - could be<br>>> jailed or executed as 'cyberterrorists' for the slightest infraction<br>
>> of the law."<br>>><br>>> "It is shortsighted and potentially counterproductive," added Reid<br>>> Fleming of the cDc. "One cannot legitimately hope to improve a<br>>> nation's free access to information by working to disable its data<br>
>> networks."<br>>><br>>> "Though we may agree with LoU that the atrocities in China and Iraq<br>>> have got to stop, we do not agree with the methods they are<br>>> advocating," said Space Rogue of the L0pht.<br>
>><br>>> Emmanuel Goldstein of 2600 said: "This kind of threat, even if made<br>>> idly, can only serve to further alienate hackers from mainstream<br>>> society and help to spread the misperceptions we're constantly<br>
>> battling. And what happens when someone in another country decides<br>>> that the United States needs to be punished for its human rights<br>>> record? This is one door that will be very hard to close if we allow<br>
>> it to be opened."<br>>><br>>> Governments worldwide are seeking to establish cyberspace as a new<br>>> battleground for their artificial conflicts. The LoU has inadvertently<br>>> legitimized this alarmist propoganda. With its dramatic announcement<br>
>> the LoU played into the hands of policy makers who want complete<br>>> control over the Internet and are looking for reasons to seize it. If<br>>> hackers solicit recognition as paramilitary factions then hacking in<br>
>> general will be seen as an act of war. Ergo, hackers will be viewed as<br>>> legitimate targets of warring states.<br>>><br>>> Strategic combat planning in the United States and among other nations<br>
>> has reached the point where real-world cases are needed to justify<br>>> assigned budgets. The LoU is providing this real-world case now. We<br>>> believe that the LoU should carefully investigate the idea of<br>
>> declaring "war" against China and Iraq. Was it planted with them by<br>>> someone with different interests in mind other than advancing human<br>>> rights considerations?<br>>><br>>> The signatories to this statement are asking hackers to reject all<br>
>> actions that seek to damage the information infrastructure of any<br>>> country. DO NOT support any acts of "Cyberwar." Keep the networks of<br>>> communication alive. They are the nervous system for human progress.<br>
>><br>>><br>>> --<br>>> jaromil, <a href="http://dyne.org"><a href="http://dyne.org">dyne.org</a></a> developer, <a href="http://jaromil.dyne.org"><a href="http://jaromil.dyne.org">http://jaromil.dyne.org</a></a><br>>> GPG: B2D9 9376 BFB2 60B7 601F 5B62 F6D3 FBD9 C2B6 8E39<br>
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