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    Just don't call yourself ents. That has a completely different
    meaning, especially in California. <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Rhys</pre>
    <br>
    On 05/06/2011 12:24 AM, Rob Davy wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:BANLkTi=xAQdCWX_Oa1ccbu62vR-F8FamPg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">At the end of the day, is it really a huge issue? So
      what, there's 3 places in Atlanta listed, whoopdy lala! If there
      was 300 and it was impossible to filter out the noise, then sure,
      but there's 3. <br>
      <br>
      We (ENTS, Edmonton New Technology Society), conciously choose not
      to use the word 'hacker' in what we do because it has too many
      negative conitations and we get some funding from the City and
      corporate people, but we're still a hackerspace at heart
      (non-profit, member run, work benches, etc). But we also rent some
      offices to some businesses to fund ourselves. And some of our
      members are more interested in technology business than taking
      things apart. <br>
      <br>
      Also, to whoever started this and is in Atlanta with the
      'hackerspace' in question; have you reached out to them? There's
      probably a huge overlap between your potential users and you
      should be heavily cross-promoting and co-promoting in my opinion.
      <br>
      <br>
      Hackerspaces and coworking spaces are very similar concepts. Don't
      be afraid of that, embrace it!<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Rob<br>
      Director, ENTS<br>
      <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://ents.ca">http://ents.ca</a><br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Agent 5 <span
          dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:ag3nt5@dc401.org">ag3nt5@dc401.org</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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          <div>Well why don't we define the term "Hacker" and require
            that you have those in the space?<br>
          </div>
          <div>
            <br>
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          <div>All those who have bypassed government security systems
            raise their hands. After that you're allowed to rent "space"
            and thusly a "Hackerspace".</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>cmon guys this is getting ricidulous.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>-David Johnson</div>
          <div>
            <div class="h5"><br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:49 PM,
                Matt Joyce <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com" target="_blank">matt@nycresistor.com</a>&gt;</span>
                wrote:<br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt
                  0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
                  padding-left: 1ex;">And we'd know how expensive the
                  dues are in icons.
                  <div>
                    <div><br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 5, 2011 at
                        2:33 PM, James Arlen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:myrcurial@thinkhaus.org"
                            target="_blank">myrcurial@thinkhaus.org</a>&gt;</span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          <p>Would certainly improve the quality of the
                            food at most. </p>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">On 2011-05-05
                                5:22 PM, "Matt Joyce" &lt;<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com"
                                  target="_blank">matt@nycresistor.com</a>&gt;
                                wrote:<br type="attribution">
                                &gt; Maybe a more yelp like interface
                                for hackerspaces would be advantageous?<br>
                                &gt; <br>
                                &gt; On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:15 PM,
                                Buddy Smith &lt;<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:buddy.smith@ieee.org"
                                  target="_blank">buddy.smith@ieee.org</a>&gt;
                                wrote:<br>
                                &gt; <br>
                                &gt;&gt; On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:13 PM,
                                Chris Weiss &lt;<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:cweiss@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank">cweiss@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                wrote:<br>
                                &gt;&gt; &gt; On Thu, May 5, 2011 at
                                4:09 PM, Buddy Smith &lt;<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:buddy.smith@ieee.org"
                                  target="_blank">buddy.smith@ieee.org</a>&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
                                &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; By that argument, we
                                should add car clubs, computer clubs,
                                robot<br>
                                &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; clubs, and everyone
                                else to the hackerspaces list.<br>
                                &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt; &gt; some of these clubs are
                                not unlike hackspaces at all. A few even
                                have<br>
                                &gt;&gt; &gt; "traditional" hackerspaces
                                formed within them, or spawned from
                                them.<br>
                                &gt;&gt; &gt; There's also a lot of
                                overlap. It kind of makes sense.<br>
                                &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt; I actually think of a
                                hackerspace as a cross between a car
                                club and a<br>
                                &gt;&gt; computer club, that actually
                                calls itself a hackerspace, and is
                                member<br>
                                &gt;&gt; owned and operated. This at
                                least applies to Freeside….<br>
                                &gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt; At least calling yourself a
                                hackerspace should be required….<br>
                                &gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt; --buddy<br>
                                &gt;&gt;
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