Arclight is 100% right on this. Do you really want to give somebody the boot because they're the most productive member of the group?<div><br></div><div>In our space, the people willing to step up and get things done generally get to make unilateral decisions (to a point). Maybe it's a very American viewpoint, but in my world, results count.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Someone with this much energy and passion should be encouraged to take a leadership role, not marginalized.</div><div><br></div><div>-- Don Ankney</div><div>Black Lodge Research</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:32 AM, john arclight <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arclight@gmail.com">arclight@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Another way to help this problem is for other people to take some<br>
initiative. Your friend certainly has a lot more justification for<br>
taking control of everything at the space if nobody else is stepping<br>
up. Get some people to take on a new project, hold a weekly/monthly<br>
meeting of some kind with a bunch of people. Strong personalities can<br>
often be "diluted" down by the presence and action of more people.<br>
<br>
If they don't like new people doing the cleaning and shelf building or<br>
decide that the Linux meeting with 20 hackers is too loud, then, they<br>
might also decide to move on if it's that disagreeable to them. And<br>
sometimes that's what an organization needs to grow.<br>
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On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:02 AM, William Macfarlane <<a href="mailto:wmacfarl@gmail.com">wmacfarl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> It's also important to talk to other people in the space because they<br>
> might think that they're the only ones who feel bothered and might,<br>
> therefore, not want to say anything unless you start the conversation.<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Deech <<a href="mailto:deech@ninjacow.net">deech@ninjacow.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I agree with the previous posters. If this person is being too dominating,<br>
>> is he even aware he's doing it?<br>
>><br>
>> Generally speaking, as nerdy hackertypes, we're all prone to various degrees<br>
>> of social interaction issues.<br>
>><br>
>> You say he's doing good solid work in the space and he's helping people, so<br>
>> he's obviously making an effort for the space so perhaps he just needs to<br>
>> find out what he's doing wrong so he can correct it.<br>
>> Many of us builder types will just keep barreling forward to get a project<br>
>> done or do things the way we think are right and will stay oblivious to<br>
>> issues in our wake.<br>
>> Hell, I know I do it myself. I just have to hope my friends can understand<br>
>> that I really don't mean any harm and will respect me enough to take me<br>
>> aside and let me know when I'm screwing up instead of just leaving me to<br>
>> hang until I unwittingly piss off the people I care about around me.<br>
>><br>
>> So, I guess my point is, just talk to the guy. He may not even be aware of<br>
>> what he's doing.<br>
>><br>
>> Also talk to the other hackers in the space, like the poster above<br>
>> mentioned, make sure that other folks are noticing it and agree with your<br>
>> viewpoint. It's easy to sometimes perceive things in a certain light based<br>
>> on your own bias or mindset and maybe others will have a different angle on<br>
>> it. If other people in the space do agree with you, then get them to talk to<br>
>> him with you, or get the help of leaders in your space, if you have them.<br>
>><br>
>> -Deech<br>
>><br>
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