Hey folks, I'm making a vaccuform machine this weekend, and I'm looking forward to working on the open door hackathon. What are you gonna do this weekend?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Sébastien Spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike@wolfplex.home.kg">spike@wolfplex.home.kg</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Matt Joyce <<a href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com">matt@nycresistor.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> [...]<br>
<div class="im">> And I really do want to know how you plan to argue that the fall of the<br>
> soviet union and consequently the berlin wall... was non violent.<br>
<br>
</div>i. “consequently” indicates a consequence, ie A ... and consequently<br>
... B means A => B.<br>
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ii. If we draw a timeline with the two following events:<br>
f(BW) the fall of the Berlin wall<br>
f (USSR) the fall of the Soviet Union<br>
<br>
it would be something line ------------------------ f(BW)<br>
------------- f(USSR) -------------><br>
--------------------------------------------------------- 1989-11-09<br>
------- 1991-fall -------------><br>
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iii. So it's impossible for the fall of the soviet union to be the<br>
cause of the Berlin wall fall,<br>
as it were already destructed two years ago.<br>
<br>
You've to find different source causes leading to the two events.<br>
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iv. Furthermore, the opening of the frontier put place in the absolute calmness,<br>
wtih some days before prayers from Protestant Church and peaceful<br>
demonstrations.<br>
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v. The USSR situation were equally calm: some countries quitted the union,<br>
without real ability or will for the union to use military force to<br>
stop the move.<br>
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In Fall 1991, it becames more and more clear the union couldn't be saved.<br>
December 8th, the Russia, Ukraine and Belarius sign the Belavezha<br>
Accords stating the USSR is ended.<br>
<br>
( Officially, at this moment the USSR still exists with Gorbatchev as<br>
president but empty, as Russian, Ukraine and Belarus are now<br>
independant states.<br>
<br>
Gorbartchev resigns December 25th. The Supreme Soviet dissolves<br>
officially itself and the USSR the 26th, while.the international<br>
community recognizes officially the independance of the Russia. )<br>
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vi. Some historians consider the wall is one of the factor locking the<br>
situation and avoiding escalate to war.<br>