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So far I think everyone has made very good points. Though it seems
that our focus is mostly on public schools. Being a person that went
threw the public school system in America (Grad in 2005) I would
absolutely have to agree. Despite what school is like around most of
the country in Wyoming its seen as "pretty good for public" We have
smaller classes than most and apparently better teachers?<br>
I don't know about either of those but I do remember wondering why no
one else seemed to care how things actually work. They just care that
it dose work and when it breaks they either call someone like us, sell
it on ebay to someone like us or just throw it away and buy a new
one... It seems that the majority of this country is not interested in
the how or why but just the "dose it work". <br>
Oh well, as its been said before, we are not exactly "highly in demand"
employees (not for our hobby/hacking/etc skills anyway). The schools
are doing what they are asked for. There was some phrase that comes to
mind "Jack of everything, Master of nothing". I dont believe this
describes "us" very well but I don think it describes what the outside
view of "us" has come to be. I guess it just means more toys for us
and more gear to take apart and have fun with. <br>
<br>
-E<br>
HackTheory<br>
<br>
On 03/03/2010 11:14 AM, john arclight wrote:
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cite="mid:769756f51003031014v7744e45awcaf7b1f00fe2f533@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">To be fair, I agree that what is taught in schools is the
result of what parents/employers/government asked for. Nobody is going
to hire me for my blacksmithing skills, but I do have to know MS Word.
The basic problems with our educational system (poor focus,
stigmatizing the trades, everyone is going to be a manager, etc) are
another whole discussion.<br>
<br>
I think the aging of the "computer hacker" population and the general
decline in knowledge of how things work has to do with the fact that we
have an incredible array of ready-to-use products around us that don't
require any fiddling. Computers used to demand a higher level of
competence from users because they were fragile and difficult to use.<br>
<br>
Combined with our society as a whole becoming more risk-averse and
specialized, and I think it's inevitable that "hands on" work is less
popular than it once was.<br>
<br>
Arclight<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Yves
Quemener <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:quemener.yves@free.fr">quemener.yves@free.fr</a>></span>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hank
The Curmudgeon a écrit :<br>
<div class="im">> Go and find the "Popular Mechanics" issues
from around 1930 (Google<br>
> "page" 31 at the bottom of the main search page, linked below) and<br>
> move forward. Grab a random issue and check the index. I am<br>
> specifically referring to the project pages. Though the ads and<br>
> feature articles are fun toothey are not the subject of my mini
rant.<br>
> Look at the stuff that we built in our home shops. What the hell<br>
> happened to us? Where did we, as a nation of inventors, dreamers,<br>
> builders and makers, go astray???<br>
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It looks like hackaday to me. I don't think any spirit went astray.<br>
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