My plan at FAMiLab had a failure-plan: either 1) we start an awesome hackerspace and become immediately notable and struggle/strive to help people learn, establish identities, grow personally, etc hackerspace hacker ethic stuff, OR 2) we start a cool hacker hangout, some people join and decide they could do better, then start their own.<br>
<br>I don't mind if we fail, as long as people know that it can be done. It should belong to the members, and if they would rather be part of a formative process than joining a preexisting space, I don't mind :). I encourage it. <br>
<br>Like I heard on the irc channel: "When there are less than 2 people per space, we have too many spaces."<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:09 PM, David Powell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davepow16@gmail.com">davepow16@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I feel Harford Hackerspace differs a lot from our neighbors (HacDC, Baltimore Node) and because of that we have been successful for over a year now. When we initially started I was able to gather up 6 members and we still have those original 6 members today. We started collecting dues as soon as we started working on projects. We a using a free space provided by a member so our overhead is very little. Our 6 members pay their dues every month and we are a very happy small group. We want to expand our membership and we have had several people come part time who are not include in the original 6. For some unknown reason we can't seem to recruit more dues paying members. <br>
<br>We focus more on just doing stuff than we do on holding classes. Mostly because non of our members really want to teach a class. They just want to build stuff and learn as they build it. We have actually learned a lot this way. The problem is that we come up with ideas on the fly and we are not actively advertising Events. We use <a href="http://meetup.com" target="_blank">meetup.com</a> and mailing list to announce our weekly gatherings and as I said we do get people who show up randomly to those but they don't come too often and we are not charging them dues.<br>
<br>Our goal this year is to restructure a little bit by adding fund raising events. We just got word last week that our 501(C)(3) status has been recommended for approval so we are just waiting for the official letter. <br>
<br>I would like to see an organization setup for the purpose of marketing hackerspaces. It would be nice if we all contributed to a fund that allowed us to put Hackerspace.org in all the major related magazines and on related websites. It seems that whenever there is a major publications about hackerspaces our website traffic goes through the roof.<br>
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<br>David</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Nick Farr (<a href="http://hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">hackerspaces.org</a>) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick@hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">nick@hackerspaces.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I think a conversation exploring the "decline in Hackerspaces" I predicted for 2010 is warranted, separate from the discussion on Kids in spaces. So here's a new thread.<br>
<br>I like what Adam Bachman said:<br>
<br>"<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">I
agree. That's what happens when you get a
massive publicity push like the HS movement got in '08 and '09 (the
co-working movement in the USA is seeing this too, by the way). Articles
in every publication and a lot of overexcited folks getting too deep
into a medium sized weekend project (signing a lease and donating old
electronics) before considering the long term commitment."</span><br><br>There's also the Benelux area which is just ramping up--and given what members of that community have pulled off recently (i.e. HAR, BruCon, etc.) and what they're planning (Multiple Hackerspace Membership), there's proof that there are many areas whose enthusiasm has not yet peaked.<br>
<br>All that being said, I strongly believe in building for sustainability--hence, why I emphasized corporations, insurance, etc. when we started out with this several years ago. What sorts of things are your hackerspaces doing to keep up enthusiasm or strive towards "being here tomorrow"?<br>
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<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 04:06, Koen Martens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gmc@sonologic.nl" target="_blank">gmc@sonologic.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:48:18AM -0500, Nick Farr (<a href="http://hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">hackerspaces.org</a>) wrote:<br>
> And, granted, this is simply my opinion. As a sociologist, I'm seeing<br>
> the kinds of disagreements and arguments we're having as signs that a<br>
> corner has turned for the worse. We had a rapid period of growth, and<br>
> it appears that 2010 will be the year when there will be more spaces<br>
> folding than opening. Not reaching out, moving on, expanding and<br>
> looking for new opportunities (i.e. engaging kids) just makes my<br>
> prediction more likely.<br>
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</div>Perhaps the US is ahead of us in that regard, but I see none of that in<br>
my own region (Benelux). The Netherlands is seeing initiatives being<br>
deployed, belgium is rapidly gaining hackerspaces and Luxembourg is (for<br>
me at least) a big inspiration.<br>
<br>
Who knows, maybe in a few years we'll face the abyss the US hackerspaces<br>
are apparently facing. But for now, hackerspaces are go over here!<br>
<br>
Gr,<br>
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Koen<br>
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