<div>Well, if you intend to incorporate your space with the state, it does become corporate. If you decide to file for nonprofit status with your government's tax authority, you are under even tighter scrutiny. Choosing to associate yourself with the word "hacker" in the public obviously makes you a target - and that's what you intend to do when you call yourself a "hacker" in public. </div>
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<div>So, as a target, what do you intend to do? You've brought the full force of the law down on yourself, and you could fight the good fight against software patents and restrictive licensing, but anything illegal you do is 5x worse than if a regular 'feed the poor' charity/nonprofit where to do it. </div>
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<div>I love this culture. I see that there's a huge difference between some of my peers, with an eery 'legalist' point of view of my country, and I want them to know that there are other ways. I want to have a legal front to show the world what we do and argue our most valid concerns, so I don't have to be afraid to say I found a neat security-related bug, to say I wrote a program without a Programmers License and three forms of identification, to say I've picked a lock before. </div>
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<div>I can't support this culture in jail, and being thrown in jail for miniscule crimes only creates legal precedence to jail the rest of you. </div>
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<div>We do a lot of stuff that's legal! Shouldn't our government-registered nonprofit corporations be about that? </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:24 AM, vmr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vmr.mrv@gmx.com">vmr.mrv@gmx.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">My god, I was thinking this was the corp-spaces mailing list instead.<br><br>Is the next step turn the hackerspaces into corporations, help<br>
intelligence agencies and work for the state ?<br><br>Now I understand why ppl go underground.<br>
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<div class="h5"><br>asbesto wrote:<br>> Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 03:47:48PM -0500, Kive wrote:<br>><br>>> MS nonprofit licensing is far cheaper, especially carried over five years<br>><br>> hey,<br>><br>
> are everyone here going INSANE?<br>><br>> O_o<br>><br>> HACKER SPACES<br>><br>> and<br>><br>> BUYING MICROSOFT SHIT????????<br>><br>><br>><br>> HEY PEOPLE, STAND UP AND LET'S *PIRATE* THAT STUFF!<br>
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