You sound a bit like us, except we're more of an oligarchy (i.e. pay the major bills == get a say in how things run).<br><br>Arclight<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:39 PM, 3ric Johanson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:3ricj@shmoo.com">3ricj@shmoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Here at hackerbot labs, we have a dictatorship. Yup, it sucks, but nothing better has worked. We are going on 5 years or so, and are still here.<br>
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The members are taking more involvement in the space at times, but other times folks get busy. I have no idea if we are a hackerspace, makerspace, "hack lab" or what.<br>
<br>
However, what is clear is that we are here building stuff and doing community related things. Anyone is welcome, except for those whom are not.<br>
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Regards,<br>
-3ric<br>
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tetsu yatsu wrote:<br>
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Personally, I think Direct Democracy is an important part of the hackerspace. It gives every member a sense of equal belonging, and a kind of vested-interest / personal accountability.<br>
But some people might disagree. To some people it sounds a little anarchist/socialist.<br>
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Sean Bonner <<a href="mailto:seanbonner@gmail.com" target="_blank">seanbonner@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:seanbonner@gmail.com" target="_blank">seanbonner@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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I think one of the magical things about hackerspaces is they aren't<br>
clearly defined, and explaining them is almost impossible without<br>
setting foot in one. They are definitely a case of the result being<br>
greater than the sum of the parts.<br>
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-s<br>
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jerry Isdale <<a href="mailto:isdale@gmail.com" target="_blank">isdale@gmail.com</a><br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
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> I'm new to this list, but recent discussions seem to me to have an<br>
> undercurrent of 'just what is a hackerspace'<br>
><br>
> It is important to many folk to have good definition of terms,<br>
and very<br>
> heated flamewars happen over such (mis)understandings.<br>
><br>
> So as a help to noobs like me, I'd like to discuss some of the<br>
terms used<br>
> for various biz models for the generic term of 'Maker Space'.<br>
Terms like<br>
> hackerspace, fab lab, tech shop, and names for variants outside<br>
those.<br>
><br>
> "hackerspace" seems to be one nebulous term with some charcteristics<br>
> Far gave a nice summary as:<br>
> The core concepts of a hackerspace:<br>
> 1) Owned and Run by it's members in a spirit of equality<br>
> 2) is a nonprofit orgnization, and open to the outside world on a<br>
> (semi)regular basis<br>
> 3) Shares tools, equipment and ideas without discrimination<br>
> 4) A strong emphasis on technology and invention<br>
> 5) Has shared space (or is working on a space) as a center of the<br>
community<br>
> 6) A strong spirit of invention and science, based on trial,<br>
error, and<br>
> freely sharing information<br>
><br>
> 'fab lab' seems to be more instituion based, specifically related<br>
to MIT<br>
> efforts. While non profit, it seems more focused on education and<br>
less on<br>
> continuing community and commercial spinnoff.<br>
><br>
> 'TechShop' is a commercial franchise variant. It offers the space<br>
equipment<br>
> and some classes, but with an underlying profit motive (perhaps<br>
small)<br>
><br>
> Other variants might be the commercial workshops that focus on<br>
particular<br>
> tech (woodworking, metalworking, screenprinting, etc)<br>
> Or the kids who gather in a family garage to hack and play. Or<br>
the club<br>
> that meets (ir)regularly.<br>
><br>
> If you strongly about 'hackerspace'', how about defining some of<br>
those maker<br>
> spaces that aren't.<br>
><br>
> Mahalo<br>
> Jerry<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
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