<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hey,<div><br></div><div>sure, that'd make an awesome post!</div><div>Would you rather want to publish it yourself, Tetsu, or have someone else (e.g. Far) do it?</div><div><br></div><div>Hack on, </div><div>/astera</div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 19, 2009, at 6:50 AM, tetsu yatsu wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">:)<br>Feel free to use it however you want. I wasn't sure if I worded it well enough, I tried a couple times. Glad you appreciated it. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Far McKon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farmckon@gmail.com">farmckon@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">tetsu,<br>If you don't mind (and we can talk Asteria/Nick/Someone into it) I'd dig to get this posted to the Hackerspaces.org blog. I think it catches a great spirit of things, and one of the things I personally worry about losing when spaces become commercial and/or 'sponsored' instead of self-organized.<br> <br>keen writing, and hack on, <br>- Far McKon<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:18 AM, tetsu yatsu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tetsuharu@gmail.com" target="_blank">tetsuharu@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> </div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div><div></div><div class="h5">FAMiLab is still small. We're not incorporated yet, our open-house is scheduled for January, but we've been using a space that I am leasing, and I wanted to share this story.<br> <br><br>We've been around for about 3 weeks now. The first week was exciting, but I can't say we had a lot of good work space. I was worried that 800sqft wasn't going to be enough, but after the first day, I felt like we'd never fill it up :). We got some steel shelves, some ikea desk furniture, and folding tables. Recently, two of our members put up a nice long wall-bench.<br> <br>The first Red-Bull and Mountain Dew fueled Friday night, we took a ceiling tile off and hung a mannequin from the ceiling. That sounds like a pretty interesting thing to do, but it was obvious at the time. I was there for the mannequin hanging, but about 4 days later someone drew murder-scene chalk body outlines (with masking tape), and taped a saw to our Mannequin's hand. I thought this was just genius. <br> <br>A couple days later, I told the member (who I thought did it) that it was pretty awesome, and I asked if we could keep it. He said the tape was beginning to peel, but we could paint it. The question was then, can we paint this carpet in a space we lease month to month? Moreso, the question was 'who do we ask?'<br> <br>I assumed I'd ask the person who did it. He's a few years older than me, and better situated professionally. I guess I considered him a senior. I thought back to a few paragraphs ago, and remember that I am personally leasing the space, so, would it be my decision maybe? Should I talk to our landlords, or a lawyer?<br> <br>It wasn't the mannequin or the murder scene outlines that took me by surprise, (in fact no one has been surprised by the mannequin so far) it's that question. All these crazy and stupid things we do in normal society are based on a juxtaposition to the arbitrary heirarchical authorities around us. They own it, so we ask them for permission. We don't have a heirarchy. We own this. There's no one above me to 'check with'. There's also no one above me to take the fall. <br> <br>I was finally left with only my own sense of personal responsibility to make my decisions. <br><br>I feel like many of my peers only engaging in corporate or academic environments are missing out on this important experience. <br> <br><br><br>I see now that the hacker ethic has a very real association with personal responsibility and restraint, something that most uneducated onlookers don't get right away when I talk to them. <br><br>(hope that wasn't too long)<br> <br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br> Discuss mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><font color="#888888"><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----<br><a href="http://www.Hive76.org" target="_blank">http://www.Hive76.org</a> "Making things awesome, making awesome things!" <br> <a href="http://www.FarMcKon.net" target="_blank">http://www.FarMcKon.net</a> "Creatively Maladjusted"<br> </font><br>_______________________________________________<br> Discuss mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org">Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br> _______________________________________________<br>Discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org">Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>