Well we have a discussion list. But we also need a childish bullshit list to file some of the recent emails into. Many of us don't really want to continue to have this crap show up in our inboxes.<br><br>I recommended we simply moderate the channel. But some folks feel that this aforementioned childish bullshit is somehow a benefit and should be allowed a place to reside.<br>
<br>=D<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:14 AM, jaromil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaromil@dyne.org">jaromil@dyne.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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</div><div class="im">On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 02:04:34PM +0200, webmind wrote:<br>
> Sorry, but this is a discussion list, if this place is not for<br>
> discussing the history, future and theory on hackerspaces. Then what<br>
> is it for?<br>
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</div>"Escapism" - a word that makes me always laugh when i think of it: I<br>
can't stop imagining a room full of monkeys on keyboards frantically<br>
hitting the ESC key on their deck. The Escapism syndrome. :)<br>
<br>
i agree with Webmind it doesn't really makes sense to open another<br>
list. worst then ever, calling it a "theory list" would fundamentally<br>
contradict one of the novelties of the "hacker approach": refusing to<br>
separate theory and practice, expressing one through the other, a 360<br>
degrees mindset which we should take care of.<br>
<br>
lets look at each other honestly: we don't need a new list to make<br>
this discussion space more readable (there are filters for that), the<br>
only reason we'd want to make a new list is to shift current childish<br>
behaviour to another space. The long term drawback will be that,<br>
whenever someone will dare to "speak theory" here or there or anywhere<br>
else, will be sent in the theory corner, which i find real scary<br>
considering that a mere theory-less executor is just a Robot.<br>
<br>
i'm also surprised that people on this list fall on top of each other<br>
so fast: every hacker has been through lots of online discussions, we<br>
should have grown a thick skin by now... so please people keep<br>
patient, use sense of humour and don't take yourself too seriously.<br>
<br>
as a last consideration on the dynamic of this list: we are still<br>
acting as if someone would be hosting us here, so while being<br>
overwhelmed by a somehow hotter dialectic process, the hosts might<br>
feel worried about keeping the sheeps in the yard, take decisions<br>
impromptu and dismantle a dialectic process. this dynamic worries me<br>
about the validity of this discussion space: a "peer 2 peer approach"<br>
to untie the knots in general would be a much better pattern to<br>
follow, if you know what i mean....<br>
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ciao<br>
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- --<br>
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jaromil, <a href="http://dyne.org" target="_blank">dyne.org</a> developer, <a href="http://jaromil.dyne.org" target="_blank">http://jaromil.dyne.org</a><br>
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