[hackerspaces] Fwd: Vaping in Spaces?

[matt]

Uhm...   do people allow people into their space who haven't bathed?  That
seems insane.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Volatile Compound <
volatilecompound at gmail.com> wrote:

> If we're banning things based on smells, then the only logical thing to
> do is also adopt a policy requiring everyone to take a shower (with
> soap) before coming over to the hackerspace in addition to brushing
> their teeth.  Also, no farting in the hackerspace.  And for fuck's sake,
> WIPE PROPERLY.  It's 102 degrees out there today, but even if it was 40
> below that's still no excuse.
>
> - skroo.
>
> On 10/8/14 12:46 PM, JB Zurn wrote:
> > Note: It simplifies the discussion immensely if we focus on the facts.
> > It smells. Some people are bothered by smells.
> >
> > If I habitually brought my favorite liverwurst and onion sandwiches into
> > the hackerspace, I'd get complaints too.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Matthew McCabe <matt at mrmccabe.com
> > <mailto:matt at mrmccabe.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Warning: trolls ahead, use caution
> >
> >     On Oct 8, 2014 11:38 AM, "John Q. Hacker" <dreamingforward at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:dreamingforward at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Matthew McCabe
> >         <matt at mrmccabe.com <mailto:matt at mrmccabe.com>> wrote:
> >         > There is no documented medical evidence showing that vaping
> >         leads to any
> >         > kind of harm to the person using the vaporizer or people
> >         inhaling the vapor
> >         > 2nd hand.  (If you have some links to peer reviewed medical
> >         journals, I
> >         > would love to read them.)
> >
> >         The speaker above is a Matrix construct for the e-cig industry.
> "No
> >         evidence that vaping leads to any kind of harm" is that EXACT
> same
> >         argument Philip J. Morris and companies used to get out of any
> >         liability of lung cancer for promoting cigarettes ("There is no
> >         medical evidence that cigarettes cause lung cancer.").
> >
> >         Just in case you missed the fallacy:  no evidence against (P ->
> >         Q) is
> >         not the same as ~Q, given P.  Q being some bad consequence of
> >         vaping,
> >         and P being vaping itself.  The rest of his diatribe is purely
> >         made to
> >         gain your trust ("I have a hackerspace ATX", "Be sure to check
> your
> >         local laws", etc.)
> >
> >         Logic-is-good,  evil is bad.  Get clued-in and follow the
> >         OneTruePath.
> >
> >         Marxos
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